hey guys does anybody know where i can get a msd set with boost retard from and what sort of dollars ill be up for
cheers
steve
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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msd with boost retard
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bugzla Custom Title Time!
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holy crap and thats without dizzy or anything man i didnt think it was going to be that much is there anything else out that there that is reliable and boost retard compatible
vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk
2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·
Have a look on summit racing, i buy a few things from there and they have all the MSD items in stock, alway cheaper than in Australia
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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thanks guys ill have a look
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what have other people used for turbo applications i have a 2.1 wbx dizzy but no ignition module or coil i could lock this dizzy or use a different module from another car maybe have searched the web but cant get anything even if i can get the 3 wires that come from it which is which ie signal wire plus the other 2
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^^ Yep, Magna spark Digital will do the trick, and you get a two step thrown in.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
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Hi
The 2.1 wbx dizzy is locked from the factory. Your better off using the ECU to control the timing under boost.
Steve
The 2.1 wbx dizzy is locked from the factory. Your better off using the ECU to control the timing under boost.
Steve
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but the problem with the dizzy is that thats all i have
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
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Hi
Sorry I gave you the wrong information the 2.1 dizzy does have centrifugal advance.
A better dizzy to use is the 2.6 Mitsubishi Magna one. Its locked and has 2 pick up coils that read 4 piston positions and TDC. It can easily be made to fit a VW motor.
What ECU are you planning to run?
Steve
Sorry I gave you the wrong information the 2.1 dizzy does have centrifugal advance.
A better dizzy to use is the 2.6 Mitsubishi Magna one. Its locked and has 2 pick up coils that read 4 piston positions and TDC. It can easily be made to fit a VW motor.
What ECU are you planning to run?
Steve
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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im not its carb turbo, efi is that little bit to expensive at the moment with 2 young kids have a lot of stuff sitting at home though ............. have got a semi complete ej20 na sitting there with the injection setup but i dont know where to start so its been pushed back i have got the carb setups su 2inch, solex 32dis and another 2 turbos a t25 and a stock r33 gtst one as well any wisdom would be helpfull
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
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Just to add another option to this converation.... I run Megajolt with EDIS crank fire parts on my POS.... No rattly old dizzy for me! 😘 It's a bit cheaper than the MSD stuff and way more controlable and programmable... It had data inputs from other devises such as wideband sensors, temp sensors and speed sensors, and is also has a data logging feature built in.
modnrod Fahrvergnugen
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Dizzy out of a Sigma/Magna etc.
Change the ignitor unit for a 5-pin GMH ignition module. Wire up as normal, but hook the 5th wire into a Hobbs switch to earth. When you get to your preset boost level, it will take out 10deg of timing.
They are as reliable as any late-80s GM electronics...........bugger. 😀
How about modifying your dizzy advance so it only goes to 24deg max advance, then as long as you don't boost the crap out of it you'll be fine.
Piss-easy, really cheap.
PS about your turbos.
The GTS Nissan stuff you can't run blow-through, it needs a carbon seal that you can't get for that model turbo (unfortunately, perfect size). Use the T25, but you MUST fit the carbon seal, or all your oil will go out the back of the exhaust and MAY draw attention to the thing a bit......
Change the ignitor unit for a 5-pin GMH ignition module. Wire up as normal, but hook the 5th wire into a Hobbs switch to earth. When you get to your preset boost level, it will take out 10deg of timing.
They are as reliable as any late-80s GM electronics...........bugger. 😀
How about modifying your dizzy advance so it only goes to 24deg max advance, then as long as you don't boost the crap out of it you'll be fine.
Piss-easy, really cheap.
PS about your turbos.
The GTS Nissan stuff you can't run blow-through, it needs a carbon seal that you can't get for that model turbo (unfortunately, perfect size). Use the T25, but you MUST fit the carbon seal, or all your oil will go out the back of the exhaust and MAY draw attention to the thing a bit......
IWL_86 Seriously Crusin Dubber
174 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
How about Delco Hacking? Use commonwhore crank trigger. Easily less than half the cost of mega squirt or mega jolt edis.
Failing that locked out timing at 20-24deg is fine for low boost setups.
Good luck
Failing that locked out timing at 20-24deg is fine for low boost setups.
Good luck
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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thats interesting ill have a look into that IWL_86 have you used that system
IWL_86 Seriously Crusin Dubber
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Hi Bugzla,
Firstly have a look here at delcohacking.net. Basically these guys designed hardware to convert any Delco GM 808 ECM(mostly found in v6 non ecotec commodores) to a standalone fuel/ignition management system.
AND IT'S CHEAP !!!!
My friend and I are tuning his daily driven Commo at the moment. For the EPROM daughter board, installation guide and software(all made in Perth) the cost was around $265.
The tunerPro software enables full tuning of ignition/fuel maps, smoothing functions, dedicated boost maps, data logging ect. Much the same as mega squirt. It's pretty heavy stuff to get your head around but given how cheap and readily available Commo parts are anywhere in Australia, it looks like a sensible option.
Funny enough the 808 computer looks identical to what CBperf have been selling for years.
If you need any more help ill dig up some more comprehensive info for you.
Good luck
Isaac
Firstly have a look here at delcohacking.net. Basically these guys designed hardware to convert any Delco GM 808 ECM(mostly found in v6 non ecotec commodores) to a standalone fuel/ignition management system.
AND IT'S CHEAP !!!!
My friend and I are tuning his daily driven Commo at the moment. For the EPROM daughter board, installation guide and software(all made in Perth) the cost was around $265.
The tunerPro software enables full tuning of ignition/fuel maps, smoothing functions, dedicated boost maps, data logging ect. Much the same as mega squirt. It's pretty heavy stuff to get your head around but given how cheap and readily available Commo parts are anywhere in Australia, it looks like a sensible option.
Funny enough the 808 computer looks identical to what CBperf have been selling for years.
If you need any more help ill dig up some more comprehensive info for you.
Good luck
Isaac
IWL_86 Seriously Crusin Dubber
174 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
Here is a link to the NVRAM board you get to house the EPROM
http://delcohacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=167
http://delcohacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=167
aintgotitmusthaveit Officially Full-On Dubber
295 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·
Get yourself a magnaspark digital distributor
I've done my research
Easy to use
Comes with everyone for 515 aus from rod Penrose racing
Bit less if your like me and go to the USA for work!
Does everything you need and comes with a map sensor built in
I sold my msd set up for one of these...
I've done my research
Easy to use
Comes with everyone for 515 aus from rod Penrose racing
Bit less if your like me and go to the USA for work!
Does everything you need and comes with a map sensor built in
I sold my msd set up for one of these...
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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wow thats interesting nick ill have a look into it but are you going across anytime soon
aintgotitmusthaveit Officially Full-On Dubber
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Trip planned late feb if all goes well
Else postage to aus from cb is 70$ I couldn't wait!
Else postage to aus from cb is 70$ I couldn't wait!
bugzla Custom Title Time!
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thanks buddy let me know how you go with yours