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sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#94349
does anyone know if u can re-drill stud patterns on mag wheels. i have commodore wheels(5 x 116.4) and want redrill to kombi (5 x 112) can it be done is there someone that can do it? cheers:beer
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#94484
Carnt see why not, but remove the tyres first so the rim can sit flat on the drill bed.

Make sure theres enough meat in the areas your going to redrill. Is the webbing on the back of the wheel hub enough to support the wheel and new locating hole.

I carnt see why any local machine shop can not drill for you unless they dont want to take a risk.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#94501
I think you'll find it's illegal.
Pay your debts, CxxT

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#94525
cheers vw54, yeah im gunna find out of an rta chick see where its legal or not. :beer sgetty
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#94618
Only Illegal until you get caught. As long as its safe there should be no problems.

Only thing you will have to blank up the old holes or do something to them to cover
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VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#94619
i got my wheels re drilled. i hit a pot hole not long after and the wheel fell apart. my insurance was voided because i had this done. so i had to cough up the money to repair the damage myself.

I DO NOT ADVISE YOU TO DO THIS.

just get ya drums or discs done to the commodore pattern
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#96351
mmmmmm maby not worth the trouble........is it an easy process getting your drums and discs to same pattern??
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#96904
Sgetty,
Its highly illegal to redrill brake drums and brake discs.. only one set of holes per item...
If You look behind a brake drum. You will find that its reinforced ONLY where the 4 holes go.... drill anywhere else and there is NOT enough metal...
You can buy New Mag wheels with 8 holes or more to fit different hubs... so if the commodore mag is nice and thick, I can't see what the problem would be...
If the alloy is thinner where You want to drill Your holes.... don't do it... You see all different thicknesses of alloy rims... some are Very thick and others very thin.... and these new Mags are running around with all the holes in plain view.... You cover Yours up with araldite epoxy etc...
Lee

Does anyone know anything We can do thats NOT illegal?????

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sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#96938
cheers 68autobug these wheels are old style commodore wheels plenty of alloy there.. ill see how i go
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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#98936
Spoke to neales wheels (spelling) in Sydney area and they said they can re-drill the discs and drums to suit any PCD you want, you can go for commodore stud pattern if you want. it also makes it the cheaper alternative when you want good looking rims for not a lot of mula, they will do the job for $65.00 each and will take a couple of days , you have to remove everything and take them bare.

:jesus

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#98966
oh cool, thanks heaps sounds like a good plan....😀
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modulus Veteran Volks Folk

2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#98970
Hi sgetty,
sgetty wrote:oh cool, thanks heaps sounds like a good plan....😀
Umm, which part of "illegal" or "the wheel fell apart. my insurance was voided" is it that sounds like a good plan?

The fact that someone who owns a drill is willing to redrill your brakes doesn't make it a good plan, it just means there's a guy willing to take your money.

Rather than spending 4 X $65 = $260 (plus tear-down and reassemble time) on the highly dubious pleasure of getting 20 extra holes drilled in a high stress area of your suspension, you could sell your Commodore mags and bid on the Audi mags which are currently on auction at ebay and which have the correct PCD, which you yourself have posted.

Having your wheels detach from their mountings at high speed could ruin your whole day.
Peter Hill
1975 Type 2 Double Cab
modulus.com.au

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#98972
mmmmm yes well that does sound narsty . i never thought of that... better plan. im not a smart man but can lift heavy stuff....
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modulus Veteran Volks Folk

2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#98973
Actually I think those mags would look excellent on a kombi.

Good luck.

[Edited on 14-10-2003 by modulus]
Peter Hill
1975 Type 2 Double Cab
modulus.com.au

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#98976
cheers:beer would have been better if i hadnt told everyone:vader its time to bid
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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#99032
I just spoke to mike of CBB in penrith. As I am looking at getting this job done. They seem to know what they are talking about when it comes to changing the stud pattern as they use this configuration on all of their buses e.g. 5L microbus, 5L stretch micro and 3.8L Ute, he said it is a completely safe and legal conversion, I tend to believe what this guy says. As for the voiding of insurance it was the fact that the guy had his wheels re-drilled.

Do your research, speak to the people in the know CBB an engineer and your insurance company.
Good luck and safe driving

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#107911
68Autobug hasnt tried to redrill a kombi hub because they are machined steel theres no strengthening ribs anywhere.

Are falcon stud patterens anywhere near commodore stud pattern ones? Cos a falcon PCD is easily stretched to fit kombi stud pattern. You drill them out large enough to fit an eccentric bush.

I doubt its legal but it will be completely safe. I ran my kombi with redrilled brakes at near 200kmh so yours should be fine.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#121474
wow i thought this thread was dead, i sold the commodore rims and have these now but ill be selling these asswell as my stud pattern on my now, both kombis is wide 5 130pcd.

these are 5x114(same as ford)
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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#121579
U2U me the price on the rims?
:jesus
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SKEWtYpe3 Custom Title Time!

1,859 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#121734
amazer i think u are right, its easier to get falcon rims to fit, enlarge the whole a little and off centre of the orig. whole

11cab knows if u wish to ask

Lee - everything is illegal in your world 🙂