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turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#944801
hey all,,,


has anyone made a beetle drift/track car that people know of??

pro and cons??

pics welcome
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#944805
This thread oughta create some interesting repsonses.

Plenty of people have track bugs but drifting a bug you have one very large con in the way.

All the weight is over your rear wheels right where you don't want it to be.

there is the odd drift out there but the driveline to do it costs more than you can imagine.

If you wanna go drifting just get an old RWD Corolla or datto and weld the diff.

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#944823
Cheaper to but a KE70 Corolla and drop in a 1UZFE..Cheap drifter and skids in all gears!.

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#944824
Would be very hard to drive.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#944832
my brother (boozo bug) took his out to an open drift day some years ago, and can definatly confirm a bug is real hard to drift. Tends to be better at doing donuts 😂
Quit calling rust patina

SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#944835
Have seen a few drifters, and know of a vert 1303 that is being made into a drift missile.

Two of them that I know of run 2.4l Type 4's, and another one has a ej22 in it.

Either way, would be a bitch to handle as, like Joel mentioned, all the weight is in the rear. This makes getting the rear out easy, but not necessarily bringing it back in.
Because it is heavier at the rear, it will always want to spin due to the momentum in the rear swinging around. I've done it, not good fun.

Definitely get an old school RWD front mounted engine car if you want to drift. R31's are nice.
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl

turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#944838
yeah could get something 'easy' to do skids in... my r32 skyline does fine but there is a million of them... i've never seen a beetle!!

just putting it out there!!! i want to see one... Can Rod Penrose put up the motor ie donation lol... everyone can chip in and get this done i'm sure!!
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#944839
Christians Lbug pulls a mean drift but it's got a massive f__k off type4 in to do it

turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#944847
Joel wrote:Christians Lbug pulls a mean drift but it's got a massive f__k off type4 in to do it

yeah i saw this years ago... made me fall in love with bugs!!!
odd how no one want to build it??
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#944848
should i say that its too expensive... if it was cheaper would there be more race bugs??
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#944866
I don't think it would be impossible. It would just be a little more difficult and you you would have to be creative during the build of the car.

Like moving as much weight up the front as you possibly can and lightening the crap out of the rear. And yes you would need a good engine like a Type 4.

Would be an interesting challenge for someone to undertake.



Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

shokwave2 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#944888
Joel wrote:Christians Lbug pulls a mean drift but it's got a massive f__k off type4 in to do it

My beetle drifts like that around the large roundabout near my house. Couldn't you just weigh down the front with lead or bricks and drift away? 😂

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#944891
shokwave2 wrote:My beetle drifts like that around the large roundabout near my house.



Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#944897
My Baja drifts ok on the sand or dirt 😀


Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#944903
Smiley wrote:I don't think it would be impossible. It would just be a little more difficult and you you would have to be creative during the build of the car.

Like moving as much weight up the front as you possibly can and lightening the crap out of the rear. And yes you would need a good engine like a Type 4.

Would be an interesting challenge for someone to undertake.



Smiley 🙂
You're suggesting moving weight to the front and then fitting a boat anchor to the rear? 😂

Being a bit more serious for a second you can accomplish a lot with swaybars and spring rates to get a car not to handle...ie drift. I think some sort of engine conversion to something late model that revs all day would make sense for a drift car, but again it's more weight in the back.

A stiff rear roll bar is your friend in promoting oversteer.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#944906
A type4 converted to upright is not much heavier than a type1

Its that stupid pancake cooling system with the cast shroud that adds weight to a type 4 in stock form.

THis guy is out there mixing it up with the Jap scrap using a type1 engine, I bet he does a lot of engine tear downs after each season though





AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#944907
Put the engine in the front.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

mactaylor Custom Title Time!

1,005 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#944930
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IWL_86 Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#944932
My old turbo beetle drifted well until a tree got in the way!

turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#944951
barls wrote:from another forum
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=132978&hilit=drift
also try contacting this user
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=53880&page=3#pid856739
he has been drifting them for a while

drifting for a while but by the look of things its a full race car... i'd hate to think how much the total cost would be...
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#945007
I've promised a few drifting mates ill get mine to qld raceway one Friday night, eventually, or a private day to save on embarrassment, just gotta finish it first 😂
Volkswagen Drivers Club of Queensland - member 🙂

STIDUB - yep its still a work in progress

Vwdcq club car racing/ and crashing while my bug isn't finished.

The above are personal views, no more, no less

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#945014
Hi

Now that I have Quaife I might give it a go in the future, it will have to be wet track as I cant break traction in the dry.

A friend of my son is building a Beetle bodied drift car, with all Corolla running gear.

Steve

turboty Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Jul 2012 ·

#945060
1303Steve wrote:Hi

Now that I have Quaife I might give it a go in the future, it will have to be wet track as I cant break traction in the dry.

A friend of my son is building a Beetle bodied drift car, with all Corolla running gear.

Steve
So a corolla with a bug shell? Or just running gear?
Mate of mine has an sr20t ke70... goes really hard... keep us posted
just because its a kit car... doesnt mean its not a vw!

IWL_86 Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#945082
2nd gear was always interesting in my old 4age panel. 8000rpm ringing in nothing more than a biscuit tin!!! Hahaha

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#945518
Seeing as more and more people these days opt for transplants into vw's especially of the Subaru variety if I had the cash I'd do the same. I'd get an impreza wrx and gut the crap out of it and put a 2.7L type 4 in it with a gt42r with 20psi. Make it rear wheel drive and go and have some fun and upset some people hahaha
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#945519
Funny you say that Brenndan, Col and I were discussing exactly that a few weeks ago. He knows of a cheap wrx that has had the engine robbed and we suggested exactly that to get the rice eaters to stand up and take notice.
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LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#945528
Do it Matt!! Take one back for the air cooled team!! I reckon it would be awesome!! 6 speed sti box and cooling system would be so easy!! Porsche shroud with ducting to where radiator would normally be so always pulling fresh air. Barrel cooler for intake and away we go!! Imagine the looks when you lift the bonnet!!
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!