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XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#949288
I have some dot 4 and dot 5 brake fluid in the garage can I use this in my beetle?

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#949294
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Sorry, had to do it, to my knowledge it will be ok but it will (should) tell you on the container what it will suit, ie, type of brake system, I also think that the "dot" has to do with the temp. range that the fluid will work at so it should be good for drums.
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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#949299
some of the different brands of 4 and 5 swell up the seals
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XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#949305
ian.mezz wrote:some of the different brands of 4 and 5 swell up the seals
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is it ok to use to bleed the brakes?

65standard Officially Full-On Dubber

373 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#949306
I use Castrol Brake Fluid Response, Dot 4 on my Beetle. No problems whatsoever with braking or seals swelling.

If you haven't bled the brakes in the last couple of years, now's the time to bleed them. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, or absorbs moisture over a period of time, reducing your brake efficiency.
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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#949318
65standard wrote:I use Castrol Brake Fluid Response, Dot 4 on my Beetle. No problems whatsoever with braking or seals swelling.

If you haven't bled the brakes in the last couple of years, now's the time to bleed them. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, or absorbs moisture over a period of time, reducing your brake efficiency.
Dot 5 is not hydroscopic and will not absorb water from the atmosphere, so it's going to last longer.
IF you have Dot 5 available to you I would use that, but I would also be checked with the compatibility of your system first.


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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#949357
Smiley wrote:
65standard wrote:I use Castrol Brake Fluid Response, Dot 4 on my Beetle. No problems whatsoever with braking or seals swelling.

If you haven't bled the brakes in the last couple of years, now's the time to bleed them. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, or absorbs moisture over a period of time, reducing your brake efficiency.
Dot 5 is not hydroscopic and will not absorb water from the atmosphere, so it's going to last longer.
IF you have Dot 5 available to you I would use that, but I would also be checked with the compatibility of your system first.


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just a note, DO NOT mix dot 5 with dot. 5.1, 4 and 3 they are not compatible. DOT 5 is silicone based oil the rest are ethyl glycol based.

If you want to use DOT 5 you need to basically replace all the of the brake system including all the lines and hoses to ensure no traces of old fluid remains. (unless you are super good at flushing)

once thats done you can use it and it will become maintenance virtually as it does not need to be changed regularly like the ethyl glycol based fluids as it is not hygroscopic. its highly recommended for new brake systems in vintage cars that don't get driven much or owners want them to last forever. oh and the performance is better too.

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#949374
Yep, dot 5 is not compaatible with other fluid, technically for new instal only.
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#949422
well that is interesting..

I'm going up to My shed to check what brake fluid I used last time when I changed My brake pads... lol

Hopefully DOT 4...

so, New cars do NOT need the brake fluid renewed every few years???

I'll have to check My wife's suzuki Swift..

I;ve been wondering how to change the brake fluid with ABS

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#949431
Dot 5 is not compatible with ABS systems.

Toyota use Dot 3.

Citroen use Dot 5.

Most others use Dot 4.

Dot 3 change every 12 months

Dot 4 change every 2 years.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#949448
Once you open the bottle use what you need and through it away

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#949450
68AutoBug wrote:well that is interesting..

I'm going up to My shed to check what brake fluid I used last time when I changed My brake pads... lol

Hopefully DOT 4...

so, New cars do NOT need the brake fluid renewed every few years???

I'll have to check My wife's suzuki Swift..

I;ve been wondering how to change the brake fluid with ABS

LEE
yes they do, DOT 5 is not to be used in ABS systems, it will f**k it. So all new cars must change as any other car would.

DOT 5 is really for simple non ABS brakes in older cars such as classic, race cars with no ABS, vintage, military etc...

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#949451
1303Steve wrote:Once you open the bottle use what you need and through it away
its not that bad. as long as its not like 90% humidity and the seal on the bottle is good it should be right for quite some time, but I would still toss it after few months.

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Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#949813
I ended up using castrol super dot 4 I take it it's the same as normal dot 4?

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#949823
yes probably. DOT 4 should be DOT 4

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REDKG Officially Full-On Dubber

327 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#949931
They all taste the same to me. I know one thing , dot5 (synthetic) wasn't around in Ferdinand porsches's day.