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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#960627
Any body here know if computer speakers can be used on a car radio? I have been looking for speakers to fit into the Caddy for a specific reason / purpose and have chanced on a set of new stand alone computer speakers that will fit perfectly, not expecting sound quality to be too great but in this instance that's not required, just wondering about the watts ohms or whatever is the criteria for car radio use?
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AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#960632
Most computer speakers require 240v. The other type are usually low wattage.
Usually car stereo speakers are 4ohms.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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shokwave2 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#960638
I had cheap surround sound PC speakers and put one on the underside of my bugs dash so i could hear the music over my motor. They do work.

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#960657
Thanks AA003 and shockwave2, checked the back of the speakers first thing, no info relating to the ohms etc on the sticker, tried to get them apart to check inside but it seems they are glued together, after removing the screws from the back panel no amount of levering cursing or pulling could make it budge, maybe if I just plug them in it will tell the storey but I have reservations about doing that as I'm not sure if I'll cause damage to the radio. I do know that the cooling fan in a PC is 12v so I have assumed that the speakers are the same but the speakers I have need to be powered I think as there is two leads coming off one with a different plug, hmm, looks like I may have to wait till Monday and visit my friendly radio installer.
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#960687
AA003 wrote:Most computer speakers require 240v. The other type are usually low wattage.
Usually car stereo speakers are 4ohms.
I haven't seen any small computer speakers requiring 240 volts???
mine have 12 volts DC sockets on them

later ones have USB plugs on the end.. [ 5v dc ]
probably made for lap tops though...

I do Have a larger pair of amplified speakers which use 240v but I bought them to use with a TV...

normal car speakers need no power just hooked to the radio cd player etc.. are usually 4 ohms.. now.. early ones were 8 ohms.. impedance

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895 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·

#960743
Power speakers are usually for extra sound. You could hook up some old hifi/ sound system speakers if you wanted. You'll find you radio will determine how much sound comes out of your speakers. Even top dollar aftermarket radios usually are 50x4 or something like that... It's been a while.
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#960750
68AutoBug wrote:
AA003 wrote:Most computer speakers require 240v. The other type are usually low wattage.
Usually car stereo speakers are 4ohms.
I haven't seen any small computer speakers requiring 240 volts???
mine have 12 volts DC sockets on them

later ones have USB plugs on the end.. [ 5v dc ]
probably made for lap tops though...

I do Have a larger pair of amplified speakers which use 240v but I bought them to use with a TV...

normal car speakers need no power just hooked to the radio cd player etc.. are usually 4 ohms.. now.. early ones were 8 ohms.. impedance

LEE
90% of these require 240
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#960753
The speakers listed above as a stand alone speakers without the subwoofer are 12 volt, the unit with the sub woofer is 240 volt, most are provided with a wall wart, i have a set of creative but these are 27 volt, you only have to check the plug pack to establish the voltage required to run them, if your head unit has a line out or pre amp out you can use this to drive the internal amps direct. no need to worry about the impedence.

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#960756
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#960759
Hi Barls

I hadn't actually seen PC speakers with subwoofers before..
I lead a quiet life.. lol 😂
will check out those logitech ones..

cheers

LEE




quote]Originally posted by barls
68AutoBug wrote:
AA003 wrote:Most computer speakers require 240v. The other type are usually low wattage.
Usually car stereo speakers are 4ohms.
I haven't seen any small computer speakers requiring 240 volts???
mine have 12 volts DC sockets on them

later ones have USB plugs on the end.. [ 5v dc ]
probably made for lap tops though...

I do Have a larger pair of amplified speakers which use 240v but I bought them to use with a TV...

normal car speakers need no power just hooked to the radio cd player etc.. are usually 4 ohms.. now.. early ones were 8 ohms.. impedance

LEE
90% of these require 240
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers [/quote]
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Beerboy Custom Title Time!

1,030 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#961015
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/speaker-system-z623?crid=47

I have the THX ones on a home tv pc. they are good enough to annoy the neighbours. all you need to do is put the computer in your car too...... I will get my coat
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138 posts · joined Aug 2011 ·

#961078
Actually a lot of them do uses 12V most of the cheap ones have transformer inside the box.
most of them are actually 5-10 watts for sattelite speaker and if applicable 7-20w for subwoofer.
most of these do run 4 ohms speaker...

the car amplifier that I pulled apart (which is now a home rack mount subwoofer amplifier)
uses internal inverter converting 12v to 24 0 24AC @ 22 khz++ (the transformer is very small due to the high frequency
that is also why some of them you can hear high pitch noise)

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#961084
Why do you want to use PC speakers anyway?
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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Beerboy Custom Title Time!

1,030 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#961104
jb hi fi do have the 6x9 speaker pods for 70 bucks I think. is that bigger than you are thinking. get a decent sound from those I would suspect
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#961152
AA003 wrote:Why do you want to use PC speakers anyway?
Don't necessarily want to use PC speakers, just that the case these ones are in suits my intended application, ie, they will have the visual effect that I am after, the ones I have found have a curved side on the case that will fit against a part of the bodywork. I think they won't work though as they have a power lead to them.
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#961153
Beerboy wrote:jb hi fi do have the 6x9 speaker pods for 70 bucks I think. is that bigger than you are thinking. get a decent sound from those I would suspect
Physical size isn't all that critical though the ones I was thinking of using are a good size at 250mm high x 80mm wide (approx)
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#961222
donn wrote:
AA003 wrote:Why do you want to use PC speakers anyway?
Don't necessarily want to use PC speakers, just that the case these ones are in suits my intended application, ie, they will have the visual effect that I am after, the ones I have found have a curved side on the case that will fit against a part of the bodywork. I think they won't work though as they have a power lead to them.
Hi Don
I thought I had a pair of car speakers in encloses that I never ever used but searched thru many cupboards and sheds etc without success..
but I did try a Car speaker on My computer and although the sound was turned up to maximum, I could just hear the sound from the 4 ohm speakers, so it looks like computer speakers have to have an amplifier to get any good sound from them..

just look for any 4 ohm speakers..
the ones You are talking about, I haven't seen recently, not that I've been looking.. but probably 15+ years ago they were fairly common
as speakers were coming down in size but not in quality..

cheers

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#961231
^ hence the 240v. yep PC speaker have amplifiers build in, the sound card in a PC only provides the signal.

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shokwave2 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#961234
Just wire them up to the car stereo and turn it on. Thats how i found out if they worked or not. Ohms and volts are for nerds. 😉

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#961235
Thats great until the smoke escapes 🤪

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#961236
vwo60 wrote:Thats grear until the smoke escapes
and expensive 👍

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