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AndrewB Seriously Crusin Dubber

141 posts · joined Jun 2011 ·

#967200
So im lazy and sick of pushing my 58 beetle in and out of the garage, and also the Og 36horse is in the way, so i want to shove it in the beetle and kill 2 birdies with one stone.

So who here knows how i can do this?
I have the conversion bushing for the starter already.
The 1300 trans had the collar type throwout bearing, and i know that wont work with the 36horse, so i took that off.
Different clutch? different pressure plate? put the throw out arm off a splitcase into the 1300 trans? lol
I have done a search on this a while back, and found people saying it can be done, but when it comes to info or proof, iv found none....
Any help would be appreciated!

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#967474
So you have a later gbox with the guide tube for the throw out bearing?

If so then just a case of using a later style clutch pressure plate. If it's one of the multiple spring finger plates and not the old skool 3 arm type then you just remove the collar from the centre of the spring fingers for the later bearing to sit against the fingers properly.

Pop the 12v to 6v bush in and away ya go 🙂
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#967551
If you have the 6 volt starter in there you just need to fit the early non guided type throw out bearing.

I Cant vouch for if the early 6 volt bearings fit the late forks but the later 12 volt non guided ones (68-70) do.

The neighbours will love you with no muffler on that thing.

AndrewB Seriously Crusin Dubber

141 posts · joined Jun 2011 ·

#967553
psimitar wrote:So you have a later gbox with the guide tube for the throw out bearing?

If so then just a case of using a later style clutch pressure plate. If it's one of the multiple spring finger plates and not the old skool 3 arm type then you just remove the collar from the centre of the spring fingers for the later bearing to sit against the fingers properly.

Pop the 12v to 6v bush in and away ya go 🙂
Yea i have a later gearbox in it with the bearing sleeve, I put that in to get me by with an 1835 until i get a box built and go with a larger motor.
Putting the 36 horse back in was never the plan, but its there and taking up room, so why not.
I put the bushing in and the 6volt starter,
I will have a look at the pressure plates and clutches i have laying around here tomorrow...
Joel wrote:If you have the 6 volt starter in there you just need to fit the early non guided type throw out bearing.

I Cant vouch for if the early 6 volt bearings fit the late forks but the later 12 volt non guided ones (68-70) do.

The neighbours will love you with no muffler on that thing.
The 6volt starter motor is in now with the bushing.
I will look for a 68-70 non guided bearing...

Hahaha the neighbours rent, so they get what they are given, and in this case, it is A LOT of loud cars, i weld in canons and 2 1/2 inch+ straight through exhausts for mates and mates of mates all the time over here, aswell as lowering jobs...
I have had this 36horse running with no mufflers back when i had the body off the pan, and it is very loud, but runs so so nice... 🙂
My bug has a trans raise so even if the 36horse had a muffler, she wouldnt fit in there...

Oh, the 6volt bearings do not fit, first (only) thing i tried haha.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#967594
I think what you need is a late 180mm pressure plate that works with the late tranny/throw-out
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#967621
I've got one too from my old 72 1300 bug, PM me if its of any interest to you

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#967657
matberry wrote:I think what you need is a late 180mm pressure plate that works with the late tranny/throw-out
Yup, I bought a new 180mm clutch kit from Micks and it just needed the centre platform removing for the late throw out bearing to work properly. Old style bearing needs the platform/ring to push against whereas the later bearing pushes directly on the fingers.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

AndrewB Seriously Crusin Dubber

141 posts · joined Jun 2011 ·

#967800
Cheers for the help guys.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#967846
Glad ya got it sorted 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍