1303Steve wrote:just shows how dumb and out of touch with reality that greenies are, what would the carbon foot print be on the all the extra gizmos in that car, probably equal to a 4WD, what was done with the old motor from the car?
thats right, the best is old car fixed up and made efficient with either properly developed engine or a conversion of a more modern engine.
couple of point on the.
1. keeping an old car on the road as long as possible reduces the foot print almost exponentially compared to buying a new one every few year. 3 R's
reduce, reuse, recycle. Bold is the 2 in this example
2. the old car cost far less energy to make than any "green" or new car ever will for the matter of fact.
3. many old cars are actually more effect than a lot of new ones. The ford model T had an average economy of 25mpg and was designed to primary run on ethanol and petrol as alternative. Today over 100 years later cars have reached a average of 26mpg. Sure some of the 4 cylinders are better than ever but people seem to forget some of the economical cars in the past as well as some that are impossible to get economy from in the modern counterpart.
biggest factor for that is weight, heavier cars are less efficient especially in city/town driving where 95% of people live. Cars are double the weight today from the 60-70s
Electric cars are a great concept as the electric motor is almost 100% efficient. The problem is the source of electricity and very bad efficiency. Coal power station have a peak efficiency of about 27% then put all the other looses in between to finally get to the electric motor in your car. Just Horrible !
We now have ICE that are reaching efficiency of 50% and slowly getting better, that is amazing considering how old the ICE design is.
If we use waste produced by society to produce bio fuels using fermentation or use the waste to feed algae that produced oil via photosynthesis its 2 birds with one stone! The technology been around for ages but no one has implemented it. I am sure the oil companies have a lot to do with that lol.
A lot of greenies don't seem to see the logic in that and go about it ass about. Fix the problem from the beginning not patch up the end result.
