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Old Hutcho Officially Full-On Dubber

281 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#968860
One of the very senior traffic guys where I work has been asked for comments on concessional registration issues in NSW. (Only NSW not other states) the NSW Govt is apparently looking at this and MAY be looking at some sort of crackdown. He tells me that two of the concepts (among others) are to be eligible for concessional registration the power limit of the engine be no higher than 10% above the standard engine fitted to that car when it was new. The second is to not allow different PCD and wheel offsets than standard or what was available AT THE DATE OF MANUFACTURE. Anybody else hearing this?

regards

Old Hutcho

Elize Learner Dubber

5 posts · joined Aug 2013 ·

#968883
No

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#968892
Does NSW have a "concessional registration" now??
Futue te ipsum!!!

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#968898
If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to modifications?
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#968911
to be eligible for concessional registration the power limit of the engine be no higher than 10% above the standard engine fitted to that car when it was new.

The second is to not allow different PCD and wheel offsets than standard or what was available AT THE DATE OF MANUFACTURE.
these have always been part of the rules its up to each club to run them
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#968912
helbus wrote:If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to modifications?
i believe the rest of the states want nsw to reduce their standard and they wont budge, been like this for almost 10 years now.
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Old Hutcho Officially Full-On Dubber

281 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#968916
Bizarre, yes we do have a concessional registration, more commonly known as historic rego.

Helbus.

I understand what you are saying, but any vehicle which is modified may be grouped into another class and kind, e.g: modified vehicles, which will have to meet a whole nother bunch of rules. The spirit and intent of concessional rego, or historic rego as it is more commonly called, is to allow old vehicles to be driven on the road to maintain and preserve the historic value of the vehicle. My informant tells me this morning that the RMS, after a heap of complaints by the HWP is looking again at the confusing set of rules which pertain to historic cars. The HWP (presumably) want the rules made more simple so they can better enforce them. Not too many HWP people know the engine capacity or horsepower of a 1954 oval for example and if the driver says its a hot 36 hp then how are they to know.

VW54

At the Nationals for there were a heap of cars with engines well over 2 litres, fuel injected, turboed etc. Different clubs it seems translate the rules in their own way. The question which follows then is, "Whose version is correct."?

regards

Old Hutcho

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#968918
Haven't heard anything.......but then, I'm almost deaf.

The big problem with these 'concessional' schemes is when they are abused by a few idiots. If there are no injuries or fatalities for 'the press' to latch onto, all should be fine.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#968922
barls wrote:
helbus wrote:If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to modifications?
i believe the rest of the states want nsw to reduce their standard and they wont budge, been like this for almost 10 years now.
I noticed this.

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Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#968923
Old Hutcho wrote:Bizarre, yes we do have a concessional registration, more commonly known as historic rego.

Helbus.

I understand what you are saying, but any vehicle which is modified may be grouped into another class and kind, e.g: modified vehicles, which will have to meet a whole nother bunch of rules. The spirit and intent of concessional rego, or historic rego as it is more commonly called, is to allow old vehicles to be driven on the road to maintain and preserve the historic value of the vehicle. My informant tells me this morning that the RMS, after a heap of complaints by the HWP is looking again at the confusing set of rules which pertain to historic cars. The HWP (presumably) want the rules made more simple so they can better enforce them. Not too many HWP people know the engine capacity or horsepower of a 1954 oval for example and if the driver says its a hot 36 hp then how are they to know.

VW54

At the Nationals for there were a heap of cars with engines well over 2 litres, fuel injected, turboed etc. Different clubs it seems translate the rules in their own way. The question which follows then is, "Whose version is correct."?

regards

Old Hutcho
isn't there 2 classes? classic and heritage?

my understating is heritage has to be spot on all factory stock, classic seems to be what every you want as long as its legal and engineered and 25 or older vehicle. I have been told this and it agrees with what I see in car clubs including the one I am in.

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Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Old Hutcho Officially Full-On Dubber

281 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#968926
Vlad, we are talking about NSW only. 2 x classes, vintage and veteran.

regards

Old Hutcho

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#968927
Old Hutcho wrote:Vlad, we are talking about NSW only. 2 x classes, vintage and veteran.

regards

Old Hutcho
oh right "NSW" keep forgetting that have their own "special" rules.

lol😂

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#968963
Vehicles must be as close to original condition as possible, with NO alterations except for safety features.

Cut and pasted from the NSW conditional rego for historic vehicles brochure.

For street rods..

• has a body and frame that were built before 1949, or,
• is a replica of a vehicle the body and frame of which
were built before 1949.

But you have to go through an Aus street rod federation affiliated club. I guess any VW beetle is technically a replica of a pre 49 model??