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aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969748
Curious as to what amount of Camber folks are running on the rear wheels and what the ride is like.

I am running 1deg of neg camber on the rear wheels and the ride is extremely bouncy.

Only seem to get a decent ride when I jack up the rear of the car so I end up with Positive Camber - I am running urethane bushes.

Good to hear others experiences.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969750
I don't think camber has anything to do with how bouncy it is, something maybe binding.

I run anywhere from -1 to -2º sticks to the road way better than positive camber but obviously no more than that much negative.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#969758
what type of rear end is it, IRS or swing axel, i have both and run about 1 degree on the swing axel and similar on the IRS, all my cars ride well and are not bouncy, at 1 degree you still should have clearence on the bump stop, i run type 3 bump stops and shorten them by 1/3. what shocks, i run the KYB gasajusts with great resalts.

aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969783
Sorry - to clarify - I am changing the ride height, which gives me a change in Camber. It is not specifically the ride height that was concerning me, it was the positive camber on the rear wheels and the resulting handling characteristics.

By lowering the ride height, and gaining more negative camber on the rears the handling improved dramatically, but the ride quality suffers. On rough roads, it is quite harsh. On smoothish roads, the ride is ok.

I am running a swing axle rear.

Adjustment swing plates and urethane bushes all round.

When I jack up the rear of the car, there is movement in the rear suspension, but not much.

I don't think it is touching the bump stops - I removed them entirely and no real difference in the ride quality.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969788
I would say its something to do with the urethane bushes, they might be binding up as you lower. Did you lubricate them?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969789
I did put a far amount of Wheel Bearing Greease on them - on the bushes themselves, and in the cap.

That appropriate?

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#969814
The urethane bushes do make the ride firmer but not uncomfortable, the nature of the swing axle suspension does not allow much movement when static, it must be rolling so the wheels can move up and the bottom of the tyre can move out in a arc, i run a swayaway camber compensator which acts as a negitive spring which softens the first part of the wheel travel, what size wheels and tyres are you running, i have a similar set up on my 60 model with 1 degree negitive, urethane bushes and 17" 45 series tyre and but still rides acceptably. were are you at, some one close by might be able to have a look.

aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969820
Be interested to see what others beetles felt like with similar suspension setups so I get a point of reference.

Car is "bouncy" - best way to describe it, no real give, just bounces.

When I jacked up the rear, positive camber on the wheels as a result, car ride was smooth.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969821
aussie260z wrote:I did put a far amount of Wheel Bearing Greease on them - on the bushes themselves, and in the cap.

That appropriate?
the inside of the bushes or outside?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969828
Inside, none really on the outside.

The urethane grease a better idea?

I am running 16x7's on 205/50 rubber

aussie260z Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#969852
Thanks for the comment mate, helpful.

I cant believe u actaully went to the hassle of posting that pic and writing that comment - keen on getting ur posts up there mate?

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#969856
have you checked to make sure your shocks are not bottoming out ?


vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969857
aussie260z wrote:Inside, none really on the outside.

The urethane grease a better idea?

I am running 16x7's on 205/50 rubber
yes inside only, hard to say if the bushes have anything to do with it.

and yes urethane special grease is highly recommended. I use super pro bushes and special their grease and they have lasted over 140k and still going good on my daily but I have no experience with poly bushed used on spring plates though.

I have used moly grease with good results as well.

do you hear any squeaking when you bounce the car up and down?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969858
aussie260z wrote:Thanks for the comment mate, helpful.

I cant believe u actaully went to the hassle of posting that pic and writing that comment - keen on getting ur posts up there mate?
someones post I am not seeing?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#969859
Yea mine, seems jokes are lost on people born without a sense of humour.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#969898
lol i get that.

no one gets my humor, only my friends do 😂

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#969907
Craig Torrens wrote:have you checked to make sure your shocks are not bottoming out ?
X2

Or are the spring plates bottoming out? ie.... Do the need to be notched?

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#969913
aussie260z wrote:Be interested to see what others beetles felt like with similar suspension setups so I get a point of reference.

Car is "bouncy" - best way to describe it, no real give, just bounces.

When I jacked up the rear, positive camber on the wheels as a result, car ride was smooth.
i get a similar feeling when I have too high a pressure in the rear tires
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