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cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#974489
Does anyone know what the bolt spacing is for t3 calipers and piston size...I have searched the net and think the early t3 calipers are same as t1 bolt spacing and later are 3" spacing,correct??

Thanks
Fabo

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#974491
Not sure of the bolt spacing dimension, all Type3s use 42 mm pistons, the early Type 3 callipers have the same bolt spacing as all Beetles

cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#974497
Was wondering as 914-4 guys use a BMW caliper as a upgrade.a stock 914 caliper is a t3 one but with the 3" spacing so must be the late t3 caliper ....so that means the BMW caliper will not be a bolt on deal to the bug bj spindle...

Lost ya??

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#974503
Hi

the only OEM calliper that bolts onto a Beetle stub is from a UK car called a Talbot Horizon, I've tried to source these with no luck, they use a 48 mm piston.

The only other solution is to use a plate to adapt another acliper

Steve

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bug68m Commited Dubber

55 posts · joined May 2012 ·

#974549
hi I put these on my 68 beetle years ago used drum brake spindles and brought adaptor plates from vintage vw give borris a ring he would know

cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#974559
Thanks guys

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#975115
There's way better ways to upgrade the brakes Chris.... Cheaper, lighter and easier to source.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#975150
^ what humpty said.


Jayess Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#975802
Check out my wanky brakes, there are cheaper options not soover the top. Im happy to show you what ive done and help you out.

Gotta have good brakes, steering and suss, engine later

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#977460
Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing.

I havent heard of that before.

Is it right?

Cheers

Newt
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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#977487
Yes the calipers are 42mm, most if not all of the aftermarket sellers sell the type 1 caliper as fitting the type 3. Which is not entirely correct, as the piston size is different. In '72 they went from 80 cm² to 100 cm² in the pad surface area.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#977504
Newt wrote:Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing.

I havent heard of that before.

Is it right?

Cheers

Newt
Hi

Not many people are aware of this, even a Sydney VW specialist was unaware of it until we pushed the pistons out of a pair of Type 3 callipers, those callipers are now fitted to my sons 1303

They are twin pin like a 72 superbug but only have one bleed nipple, so the callipers are left or right handed

cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#977529
Cheers guys for the info...I have purchase some two pot wilwoods to try on the rear.I was thinking about selling my front brakes and also having two pot on the front but might just run what I already have and plumb in a bias valve,was originally thinking bout making a pedal box with balance bar etc,but its just more stuffing around and $$ so I'm winging it with the new combo,fingers crossed...

Thanks
Fabo

sub60 Seriously Crusin Dubber

137 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#977556
I have made these pedal boxes, copy of a Tilton, been in use in rally cars for a few years and work well allowing use of any brake combination. Have a couple left, Simon knows of me.

Vanders Seriously Crusin Dubber

125 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#977746
Bolt spacings are different between early and late type 3's. Later type 3's have a wider spacing, and are difficult to get replacements as they don't fit anything else. They also have the bigger pads as stated in an earlier post.
1972 Type 3 Kit Car - "Marauder"

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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#979247
Guys,

Just following on from the line of thought about the earlier type 3 calipers (42mm piston and type 1 spacing).

Did they run with the type 1 rotor or the thicker/larger type 3 rotor?

Ta

Newt
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#979272
they use a Type 1 rotor

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#979425
Ahhhh! - I through some out 14 years ago - cos I didnt think they would fit. 😢
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