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LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#974280
What is the minimum length rear wheel studs have to be? Don't have an andra book with me sorry!!
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#974282
The rule book says you need a minimum thread engagement of one 'diameter' within the (hex part of the) nut.
So a 1/2" diameter thread will need 1/2 " length of thread engagement within the nut.
Cars 10.99 and quicker must have open ended nuts,
so that the engagement is visible.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#974285
dangerous wrote:There is an SFI standard 4.1 for 'flexible' blankets, and also a 4.1 standard for 'trans shields'.

http://www.sfifoundation.com/drag-racing/

There are plenty of trans blankets available out there for other types of gearboxes,
that meet the SFI 4.1 standard.

http://www.sfifoundation.com/wp-content/pdfs/manufacturers/4.1%20Manufacturers%20List%20(flexible%20type).pdf

If the local manufacturer can make a trans blanket to SFI 4.1 'Flexible', then that will be perfectly acceptable by ANDRA.

Simples!
Thanks Dave....

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#974341
I've got a simple little tip for a drag car.
OK then, two! 😂

1. Always put a battery cut-off switch within "really-fast-hand-swipe" of the steering wheel. Always. As your hand flails wildly in front of your great big huge goggle eyes at 100-and-lots, your fingers can flick out and kill the damn thing before it kills you! In addition to the ANDRA required external switch is easy to do.

2. You get vibration in the water box. Sometimes it can upset the float level and stall the car when you jerk forward and the slicks bite hard. While it's sitting there quietly, you notice you can't hear the pump whirring. Lucky you put all the relays and fuses, with spares, right on the tunnel within easy reach to change the fuse so the pump works again. So you can start it. So you can stage. So you can win and do it all again.

😁

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977637
Anyone else received the new ANDRA rule book? They have changed some of the super sedan rules....

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#977651
found it. me not so smart u know.

BUT u can weld 😘😘
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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nasty Commited Dubber

65 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#977721
andrewmurphy wrote:Anyone else received the new ANDRA rule book? They have changed some of the super sedan rules....
Hmmm, strange that. I didn't realise the class was being over run by manual transmission vehicles with centrifrugal clutches, clutch management and two wheel brakes enough to warrant a rule change.

HS618 Officially Full-On Dubber

277 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#977723
nasty wrote:Hmmm, strange that. I didn't realise the class was being over run by manual transmission vehicles with centrifrugal clutches, clutch management and two wheel brakes enough to warrant a rule change.
Maybe the the change was made by people that DON'T
have the equipment you mentioned Michael??

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977726
HS618 wrote:
nasty wrote:Hmmm, strange that. I didn't realise the class was being over run by manual transmission vehicles with centrifrugal clutches, clutch management and two wheel brakes enough to warrant a rule change.
Maybe the the change was made by people that DON'T
have the equipment you mentioned Michael??
What a pain in the neck!!!!!!
😠😠😠😠

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#977750
Rev6 clutches etc that are centrifugal assisted aren't lock up clutches (page 199). The rules regarding pneumatics etc would be more focused towards sneaky multi stage setups so a call to andra tech may hopefully get that clarified for VW applications. I'm guessing those rules are aimed at keeping door slammers out of super sedan.


4 wheel brakes are a PITA though!

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#977807
Actually centrifigal assist is exactly what a lock-up is, the bike guys have only been calling them that for about 30 years.
They obvioiusly meant "multi-staged adjustable" I spose.

Not trying to be clever, but jeez it just gets frustrating when every year ANDRA brings out new rules, but call the items different names to everyone else! They cause vastly more confusion than they fix.

I rekn if $100K ex-Doorslammers with Lenco's want to turn up thinking they have it in the bag and get trailered by a manually-shifted hotrod, bring it on!
Do your stuff Henry! 👍

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#977895
SuperOwen wrote:4 wheel brakes are a PITA though!
Feck! 😠
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977904
How many guys will this affect?
It will me. This may mean I miss Sydney.

nasty Commited Dubber

65 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#977907
andrewmurphy wrote:How many guys will this affect?
It will me. This may mean I miss Sydney.
My front wheels and struts are ready to go for brakes but it's the plumbing and master cylinder that will take some time.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#977911
Nothing in the rules to say that they have to both be connected to the master cylinder.
My rears are on the foot, and my fronts are on the staging brake.
Work very well and easy to plumb.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977963
An update on the four wheel brakes.
I have spoken to the new ANDRA technical guy who has emailed the national rules committee to get this reversed. No one knows why the rule was changed so a page edit will be sent out by the end of the week.

He has also said my ballistic blanket is good to use and will email me that confirmation too.

He seems like a reasonable guy to deal with. Here's hoping sanity continues to prevail.

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#977965
Nice work Andrew....makes you wonder though how many other rules have been changed on a whim. Just as a point of interest i'd like to know the trigger for a rule change, other than safety of course....is it just an idea a single person has or is the result of a majority decision?

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977979
From what I understand.....and don't quote me ......

Anyone can submit a change request. It will go to a national rule committee for that class who review the change and it will go into the next rule book. If it is requiring an earlier change than the next year they submit a page change. And notify people through their websites and through ANDRA notice boards.

There is good info on their site.

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#977984
Did Mr Andra have anything to say about vw clutch management setups?

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#977985
SuperOwen wrote:Did Mr Andra have anything to say about vw clutch management setups?
He didn't except to say that the changes look like a carry over from super gas which doesn't make sense because I looked at the 2013 super gas and it doesn't say anything about it.

I'll ask and let you know.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#978051
ANDRA are going to be sending a page update that will reset the suspension, clutch and brakes back to the 'general regulations' so there will be no issues with the rev 6 clutches.
andrewmurphy wrote:
SuperOwen wrote:Did Mr Andra have anything to say about vw clutch management setups?
He didn't except to say that the changes look like a carry over from super gas which doesn't make sense because I looked at the 2013 super gas and it doesn't say anything about it.

I'll ask and let you know.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#978325
The super sedan page has been updated.

http://www.andra.com.au/images/stories/ANDRA/PDF/rulebook_page_updates/20131219supersedan.pdf


Required
Suspension: All rules pertaining to Gas class suspension are relevant to these classes, except that rear suspension is optional. Refer General Regulations “4.10.4 Suspension” on page 225
Transmission: Any type of transmission may be used.
Rear Hubs: All supercharged sedans quicker than 7.50 seconds (1/4 mile) / 4.90 seconds (1/8 mile) are required to use fully floating rear hubs.
Auto Trans/Converters: Refer General Regulations “4.9 Drivetrain” on page 220
Clutch: Refer General Regulations / Bellhousing” on page 222 “4.9.4 Clutch” on page 221
Flywheel: Refer General Regulations 4.9.6 Flywheel & “4.9.7 Flywheel Shields
Rear Axle: Any production automobile rear axle assembly permitted. Track may be narrowed. Spool may be fitted. Refer General Regulations “4.9.9 Rear Axle” on page 224
Brakes: Two wheel hydraulic brakes required as minimum. Refer General Regulations “4.10.1 Brakes” on page 224 CLASS REGS

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#978343
Well done Andrew.

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#978366
Is there still a push for a drag tech section? If so, who would be moderator?

thanks
Andrew

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#978411
Dave

I've created the Drag Tech section, and you're the moderator 🙂

Have fun folks - it's a sub-forum of this forum, so it should be easier to find than if it is off by itself.

thanks
Andrew