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Setting Toe In (Front and Rear).

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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#979757
Hi Guys,

A couple of years ago I tried to get a shop to give me a 4 wheel wheel alignment. They didnt do it as they said it was too low to get on there machine.

Ive almost finished rebuilding the pan and was wondering if setting up the front and rear alignment is something that can be done before the body goes back on.

As an aside - once back on the road, Im aiming to have it a couple of inches lower than original (dont know if that will change the alignment).

It was just a thought.

(Its a new back bone, so I dont have a firm starting point for the rear alignment).

Cheers

Newt
It is as it is - If you didnt enjoy today, you've missed the opportunity.

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#979763
You can set your own toe.It's probably easier while the body is off actually, seeeing as you don't have the guards to contend with. l would get it as close to the final ride height as possible though. I use brickies string line and a level. Run 2 strings parallel along the sidewalls of your tyres at the height of your axle (you may have to do this twice as your front and rear track are probably different) and use a level for the camber.
Quit calling rust patina

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#979766
You really need to set the toe with the car as it will be on the road....tank full, spare wheel, and driver in place.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#979775
HappyDaze wrote:You really need to set the toe with the car as it will be on the road....tank full, spare wheel, and driver in place.
x2
waste of time before it's FULL weight
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colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#979838
matberry wrote:
HappyDaze wrote:You really need to set the toe with the car as it will be on the road....tank full, spare wheel, and driver in place.
x2
waste of time before it's FULL weight
x3
Take it to an alignment shop,
While string and your eye will get it close a machine will get it within tenths of a millimetre across the total toe.

Cheers Col

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#979840
Well if you want to do it properly 😂
Quit calling rust patina

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#979880
Cheers Guys - I wasnt holding my breath on this one (just pondering).

Newt
It is as it is - If you didnt enjoy today, you've missed the opportunity.

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#979884
Don't forget, when it's time for the wheel-alignment, any machine is only as good as its operator. 👍
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#979896
Something else that will help, when your assembling the front end, rough it out close as you go, this is important as most alignment shops don't want to spend the time fiddling with this and it's very important for a few reasons, to have min play in the steering box and to get equal turning lock-to-lock. Centre the steering box with no tie rods fitted, then set the tie rod lengths to get the wheels straight ahead by sighting the inside edge of the tyre to align it to be near the inside rear tyre edge (all at ride height ie on the ground)
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OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#979902
HappyDaze wrote:You really need to set the toe with the car as it will be on the road....tank full, spare wheel, and driver in place.
exactly! does not work otherwise.

suspension and steering geometry is dynamic, thats why it need to be set in a state the car will be in most of the time.

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