1303 need help on wheel and brake set up

john_p23 Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined May 2010 · 7 Mar 2014, 5:56 pm

#985338

Hi' everyone
Let start with I plan to put either Porsche dial style 16" or twist 17x7 on my 1303 L bug. Everyone said both style will fit under stock guard with no problem.
At the moment my car has stock brake front and rear , front adjustable coil over with narrow spring and empi style 8 spoke wheels and if you see my picture, the front wheels of my car sticking out about 1.5" off the fender already
My question are...
1 . What offset do I need on those wheels?
2. Can I stay with stock brake set up with redrill rotor and drum for now?
3. Other than Porsche 944 or 924 caliper what brake upgrade can I use and fit Porsche wheels?
The car is in process of sending to the painter and wanna make sure that I don't need to flare the guards before they start painting . Wanna do it right at once.
Thank you.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 7 Mar 2014, 6:20 pm

#985341

g'day

have a look here at a car I use to own

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=36756&page=1

The "best" Porsche wheels are Boxster 16" rear 7" ET 40 and front 6" ET 50

Because of their set up you want different ET front and back on Supers

Tele-Dial and twist I dont think you will fit without spacers

You cant redrill legally
If you Porsche stud them with mushroom heads that may be legal
Best to get new rotors and drums drilled.
make sure you get uniforn thickness drums and rotors - not 4 stud webbed blanks.
You wont have enough meat off the web

Stock brakes are fine.
If anything go Type 3 rear drum

Futue te ipsum!!!

john_p23 Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined May 2010 · 9 Mar 2014, 9:37 pm

#985538

Thank you very much for your advice Bizarre. Picture of your bug with boxster wheels was very nice indeed.
Anyway still in love with the twist style and found a set on ebay , they are 17"x7" front and 8" rear , dont know the offset . Dont know if it fit under stock fender? I dont mind 8 mm spacer at the back if it enough clearance. More information please everyone. Thank you
Ps. What do you guy rate rear disc conversion kit from classic veedub?

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Mar 2014, 10:27 am

#985557

I wouldn't waste my money on the rear disc kit.
For show only. No better braking and hand brake all but disappears.

If you really want to go that way you are better off with a Ford EB conversion.

Twist will fit under stock guards but it is a real thick spacer which you would not get engineer approval.

Futue te ipsum!!!

karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 · 10 Mar 2014, 10:02 pm

#985623

Bizarre wrote:I wouldn't waste my money on the rear disc kit.
For show only. No better braking and hand brake all but disappears.

Twist will fit under stock guards but it is a real thick spacer which you would not get engineer approval.

I know you mentioned brake upgrades other than Porsche 944 but they really are the ultimate package for a 1303.

Standard Beetle braking is pretty crap and until you've driven a 1303 with factory ventilated discs and calipers that are designed to stop a much heavier car - you don't know what excellent brakes are. Added benefits are a factory handbrake that works and a wide range of Porsche wheels that will fit without spacers.

I've used the complete 944 NA front hub on a adjustable strut with standard springs and complete 944 NA rear trailing arms and standard 1303 MC - braking is amazing with a very progressive pedal. All engineered and Blue plated. Rears are much bigger than a modern heavier Beetle. (not sure if its clear in the picture.

Porsche wheels that fit under standard guards are Boxster 16x6 ET50. Boxster 17x7 ET55 - no spacers. After that its wider guards.

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1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV

karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 · 10 Mar 2014, 10:06 pm

#985624

Boxster 17x7 ET55 with standard guards and springs

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1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV

john_p23 Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined May 2010 · 11 Mar 2014, 6:31 pm

#985684

Thanks for your info karmann141. How much you paid for brake set up back then? Was it need much modification?

karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 · 11 Mar 2014, 8:46 pm

#985711

Bought complete rear trailing arms and brakes for $400 several years ago locally on ebay.

Front hubs and brakes, not sure as I've had them for quite a few years. Unfortunately they're all just getting a bit harder to find these days but they're still available for reasonable $.

Try this site for some good tips

http://vdubengineering.com/technical/porsche-brake-conversions-2/

Porsche wheels that will fit and track increases

http://vdubengineering.com/technical/wheel-fitment-guide-aircooled-vws/

Cost $300 to engineer brakes and Blueplate

1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV