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jackthepom Casual Dubber

20 posts · joined Nov 2013 ·

#992302
Hey guys
I recently put a 67 beetle gearbox in my 61 then fitted a 1600 twinport motor.
Since doing so the motor sits crooked in the engine bay, the tinware has about 2-3mm clearence from the body on the driver side. But the passenger side has about 10-12mm clearence.
I have been told to change the nose cone on the gearbox but dont knkw the definite solution!!
Please help!

vduboy Insano Dub Head

702 posts · joined Oct 2012 ·

#992303
Check your gear box mounts make sure they aren't torn/damaged, Got any pics?
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jackthepom Casual Dubber

20 posts · joined Nov 2013 ·

#992312
Box has been reconditioned
all mounts are new etc

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#992343
There is a bit of clearance in the mounting holes usually from wear. I'd say if you loosen everything off you'll be able to realign it.

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#992358
Check the gearbox is on centre, did the original engine sit in the centre of the engine bay, some times you have to loosen all the body bolts and move the entire body over if everything else checks out ok.

jackthepom Casual Dubber

20 posts · joined Nov 2013 ·

#992373
Everything was okay until I replaced engine and gearbox

REDKG Officially Full-On Dubber

327 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#992400
as they said, loosen ALL gearbox mount bolts and maybe the mount frame across the horns..You may need to use a jack and bars to move the engine.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#992411
Was it a split case non synchro first gearbox originally?
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Governor Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#992424
Silly question but did you grind the box out for the flywheel?

jackthepom Casual Dubber

20 posts · joined Nov 2013 ·

#992425
No I didn't
I bought the box from a guy who had it running in a 67 with a 1600 twin port

Governor Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#992426
I only ask because if the flywheel isnt sitting in the box correctly the engine might not be mated to the box?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#992446
Was it a non synchro box that you swapped out?
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#992527
Get the rear up on axles stands and lay under the gearbox so you can see if the gearbox sits parallel with the framehorns and if the engine has properly mated to the gearbox.

This will let you know where the issue lies as could be gearbox mounts or could be the engine not seated properly.

Easiest way to find out really 🙂
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#992536
He's been told to change the nose cone, my guess it's a '60 or earlier chassis with a crash box. The mounts and horns vary and adapting the later box isn't always easy.
Have a look where the gear selector goes into the hole in the pan. It should line up in the middle of the hole and another area to check is that the axle tubes have plenty of clearance for the boots. It's a good indication that everything is in place.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#992548
matberry wrote:He's been told to change the nose cone, my guess it's a '60 or earlier chassis with a crash box. The mounts and horns vary and adapting the later box isn't always easy.
Have a look where the gear selector goes into the hole in the pan. It should line up in the middle of the hole and another area to check is that the axle tubes have plenty of clearance for the boots. It's a good indication that everything is in place.
Ah, I didn't read all the replies. Yea, later box in early chassis will require early kombi nosecone or the chassis mount cutting off and relevant mount for his gearbox welding on.
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Deadpan Seriously Crusin Dubber

109 posts · joined Apr 2014 ·

#992682
You have already got a few possible outcomes from suggestions,mine would be if everything is correct and the engine is already out of the bug,pull out the gearbox and then see if they bolt up
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