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POBJOY STEROIDS= 120+hp@the wheels

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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#136984
Here we go again.........😀😀😉😉
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Andy42 Insano Dub Head

709 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#136992
off the shelf for how much complete and running
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Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#137017
That's double what my car puts out! Crikey.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#137020
great now everyone's gonna want one 😠:P
let sleeping dubs lie

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137029
What ^ said :thumb

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137098
hmm, maybe if I sold my whole car I could afford a 120+HP vw motor (not pobjoy specific, any big vw shop).

Then I'd have to save up to buy a car to put it in...

And I'd love to go back to carbies, a lack of heating, a lack of low end smoothness, occasional difficult starting, regular maintenance, a low amp alternator...

hmm, on second thought's I think I will keep my V6 Baja. 😀

Seriously though, 120HP out of a VW motor is great.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Boozer Demented But Determined

1,999 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#137100
how did i know that one was coming?😀😀😀:P

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#137114
wouldn't you get more than $7000 for tour car Wes?????:jesus
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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137119
yeah, but youd still need significantly more than $7k for a pobjoy steroids.

Wonderful motors for the rich and famous amongst us.

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137121
Baja Wes wrote:hmm, maybe if I sold my whole car I could afford a 120+HP vw motor (not pobjoy specific, any big vw shop).

Then I'd have to save up to buy a car to put it in...

And I'd love to go back to carbies, a lack of heating, a lack of low end smoothness, occasional difficult starting, regular maintenance, a low amp alternator...

hmm, on second thought's I think I will keep my V6 Baja. 😀
booooooooooooooooring :P

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#137180
Fair dinkum -some of you blokes would whinge if you won the lottery...
This is close to the ultimate road-going VW that is capable of taking on and winning in weekend club comp. If you want to go fast without spending too much money, buy a 10-year-old fast Jap bike. If, however, you want to have serious fun in a fast Beetle, set aside about 10K for one of these steroids engines. That will get you
Magnum heads
94 P&Cs
Alloy big block case
CW Pobjoy stock stroke reinforced crank
Suitable cam and lifters
44IDF webers
reco rods
balanced
All machining
Assembly by arguably the best VW builder in the world
warranty

You need to supply late sbeetle engine for exchange rods, crank etc and accessories such as alterantor/generator, stand etc

If you don't want one, don't buy one and don't whinge about one. And I'll see you on the streets...:P
Pay your debts, CxxT

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#137205
Doug Sweetman wrote:yeah, but youd still need significantly more than $7k for a pobjoy steroids.

Wonderful motors for the rich and famous amongst us.
Crap....you don't know what you're talking about obviously😀....I've got a steroids that I paid less than $7000 for and a "standard" Pobjoy that cost less than $6200 complete with carbs etc(full turnkey) Why spend the $$$ on carbs when you can have fuel injection as described in other posts on the forum??? Whats stopping you getting a longblock minus tinware/carbs??Do you really need the alloy case?? It will always come down to $$ and how much you want to spend regardless of who builds it. The final cost is up to the purchaser:bounce
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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#137209
Craig Torrens wrote:You can now safely say a Pobjoy Steroids 1916cc is capable of 120+hp.

Thanks to CBB (Mike) for doing some tuning and Dyno runs on a Pobjoy spec 1916cc, they managed to tune it to 120+hp. This is the "off the shelf" new steroids motor, running a street legal muffler as well as the standard pulley !!! So fit a power pulley and a race muffler and expect even more. S0 how does that compare to the strokers ??????

Amazing what you can do when you Dyno tune !


Sounds like I have to book into CBB for a play :thumb




Woo Hoo!!! Good info Craig. Just wondering what changes did they make?

whatnow Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137245
gee craig, anyone would think that you are hoping for a discount on your next motor.... 😀
they may seem like a lot of money but after riding in a car fitted with one and feeling the back end squirming under acceleration... on race slicks (with the motor only getting 2/3's throttle due to the acc cable adjustment) it all seems worth it.
after that run i want one... so far i have been slowly collecting the bits for a few years and am still a few years off, but i'm willing to wait as i only want to spend the cash once.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137246
Craig Is that carbies or EFI.??

Great HP if its carbies... can believe it more than the yanks HP output readings.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#137289
that was with carbies. 44IDFs
Pay your debts, CxxT

1303 Officially Full-On Dubber

250 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#137361
That's amazing power out of an engine still using some standard parts (rockers etc).....must be more than happy with that!!!. What type of CB 044's ? are they CNC wedge,round etc.What compression? tell more....tell more.....

Alex Holzl 2332cc of pure BALLZ!!

1,550 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#137417
may i please see the dino sheet soo i can see wheather you have your hand on the scales...?????

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137442
Well Alexandra,

The Dyno tuning was done at CBB by Mike on a Dynamic Dyno using Shootout Mode.

I'm sure he will confirm for you.

Yes there is a printout, the owner has it.

And yes the Dyno run had several witnesses including Dave Stoker.

Just except that when it comes to engine building "Stan's the Man". And for tuning Mikes the man
😀


Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137586
man I think I am in the twilight zone, everyone is behaving so well 😀

keep it up guys :thumb
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137987
1303 wrote:That's amazing power out of an engine still using some standard parts (rockers etc).....must be more than happy with that!!!. What type of CB 044's ? are they CNC wedge,round etc.What compression? tell more....tell more.....
also uses vw conrods, and a counterweighted vw crank........... the specs are posted on the forum, just not too sure where !!!!

If you want to know more, maybe phone Stan Pobjoy 0266509616


Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137999
Ben Durie wrote:Troy should be happy with that number,
great result.

but what was the torque ?

what gear did he use ?
what final drive ratio ?
Ben.
Yes Troy is happy.

Probably best to speak with Mike for all the FIgures etc regarding the Dyno run, as I was not there:thumb

I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right :jesus

4th gear with a 3.88 diff and standard fourth gear ratio. Troy has 7x15'' rims with 205 65series (I think)

As I said best to ring Mike, he apparently has Flywheel horsepower,torque figures etc etc🙂


Kai.A. Fahrvergnugen

915 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#138012
Craig Torrens wrote:I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right
hhmmmm...... unlikely:o

kai

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#138031
Jetting !


jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#138101
Ben Durie wrote:700ft lbs nah,

30 hp in the tune up , what did he do ?

Ben
turned the motor on??.........................but seriously, this whole 1916 thing is just like the Governments new fair trade agreement, we're all told how good it is but no one really knows whats inside it......
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#138108
"blah blah blah blah I'm this & I'm that blah blah blah, I should have a big capital "I" in the middle of my name cause "I'M" so great.................wank wank wank wank........... "
wtf?:jesus wacky sig line..
that'd make you "jaIk" 😀

if you don't know what's inside it, you haven't been reading this forum...
let the flaming begin... wes spoke too soon 😉

PeIter
let sleeping dubs lie

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#138133
like I said before.....here we go again. Can't people just move on?? The motor made excellent horsepower. Good. We have been informed about it. Great. Why start a slinging match???:jesus🙁
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#138189
Craig Torrens wrote:I think 700ftlb ????? up from 550ftlb, does that sound right
Dyno's measure force at the wheels. So if anything it was 700 lbf. Then multiply it by the wheel radius and you get about 750ft.lbs of torque at the wheels, but that has been multiplied up by the gear ratios, so it depends what gear it was in. Third gear is normal.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.