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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#196658
gayanne wrote:
Craig Torrens wrote:
gayanne wrote:
What drugs are you on !!!

And NO, Stan would not agree.

And if Goodman engines think that you only loose 1% of your horsepower through a gearbox well........................
lol... 5%? 10? gayenne - YOU'RE JOKING. Or misinformed. One percent is just fantasy stuff that not even a Toyota Prius could hope for. Driveline loss for a current-generation manual gearbox is typically 25 percent. I don't know for sure, but it will possibly be more for an older-generation manual gearbox (developed in the days before emissions and fuel consumption targets.) And a transaxle has just as many whirly bits as a 'normal' car so don't tell me any stories about it being more compact or some crap...
Who cares anyway - it's effort at the wheels that makes the car go!

[Edited on 1-7-2004 by VWCOOL]
Pay your debts, CxxT

gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#196821
VWCOOL wrote:
gayanne wrote:
Craig Torrens wrote:
gayanne wrote:
What drugs are you on !!!

And NO, Stan would not agree.

And if Goodman engines think that you only loose 1% of your horsepower through a gearbox well........................
lol... 5%? 10? gayenne - YOU'RE JOKING. Or misinformed. One percent is just fantasy stuff that not even a Toyota Prius could hope for. Driveline loss for a current-generation manual gearbox is typically 25 percent. I don't know for sure, but it will possibly be more for an older-generation manual gearbox (developed in the days before emissions and fuel consumption targets.) And a transaxle has just as many whirly bits as a 'normal' car so don't tell me any stories about it being more compact or some crap...
Who cares anyway - it's effort at the wheels that makes the car go!

[Edited on 1-7-2004 by VWCOOL]
TextYes 1% is fantasy land 5to 10% is around the money for race cars.20%is about the figures you would use standard boxes If you read bajawes quote i agreed with his technical notes so please read the quotes a little better.JVLRacing

[Edited on 1-7-2004 by gayanne]

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#196965
oh. my. god. so many quotes. you would think this is U2U. heh. but. nehoo. i think we established 20% by now 😀 what a standard 1600 got at the wheels? or even flywheel for that matter?

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#197259
Pete...Can't remember off hand what a stock 63 bug weighs, but surely mine wouldn't much more than that. Add some drivetrain bits like dellortos, sump, OBERG, tramp bar, intermediate mount, disc brakes, sway bar and 15" FUCHS.

Ball park?
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#197467
Humpty, probably around 90hp.


humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#197821
Cheers Craig..... I can live with that.... For now!
By the way, is that @ the FW or RW?
Now where's that turbo motor I've been piecing together for the last 6 years!

How's married life Craig?
Never did pick up that visor, ya bugger!
Don't worry about, I haven't even tried to move since!

[Edited on 4-7-2004 by humpty]
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#202291
jesus. 90hp and a 14.8 u r doing well humpty. u2u me as i am checking out the option of building a 1776cc motor.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#202422
I reckon a 14.8 in an early beetle would need around 100HP at the wheels.

It depends on the weight of the car and driver amoung other things. My guess for car driver and fuel would be at least 830kg.

My guess is based on my acceleration spreadsheet.
http://www.offroadvw.net/exceldyno/
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.