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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#198918
bought some new boots for the axles from micks and have put them on.....but the last bolt on the larger (housing) end of the boot cant be done up as there is a gap where the rubber doesnt quite pull together and interlock......the round clamp doesnt quite pull the rubber together at the top and i can fit my finger into the gap left....this is the same for both sides. im going to get some longer bolts of the same size to try and pull it together and hopefully this will work.:alien.....the smaller end where it fits to the axle is fine and i can do up every bolt but the last one at the large end. has anyone else had this problem?
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MikeM Buggy Head

1,429 posts · joined Aug 2003 ·

#198924
:duh don't use a longer bolt you'll rip the boot.

These boots are a bugger to fit. The boots you bought are proably dodgy brazilian copies and you should have tried to source some german ones, but live and learn.

To get a good seal, which you want to do, you will need to get the boot to fit before fitting the bolts. You may have to heat the boot with a hot air gun to get it pliable enough to fit. If it was summer you could leave them lieing in the sun. Just get the fit right or the first time you go up the beach your tranny will fill up with sand 🙁

The seal side (split) should be facing the back of the car, not pointing up or down. If it's pointing up or down it does not afford enough movement and will fail.

You will more than likely not want to use the hose claps that come with the kit either, they are usually crap or require a special tool to fit (german ones) you need to source some good stainless clamps from a hose suppliers (like tony powells) that are the right size.

Hope that's of help


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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#198926
Well there are several different qualities of boots available.

Yes the joint or seam should be pointing backwards and when fitting the boot should be pushed towards the gearbox.
Fit all the screws loose through the boot before you tighten any up and have the clamps around the axle.

You can also jack up the axle untill its level, makes the boot fit easier
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#198928
thanks guys
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#198930
they came from micks.....the clamps say they are a product of germany but i dont know about the boots
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#198933
Well they sound right

Try jacking up the axle so its slightly above level this should make it easier
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#198935
ok ill try that tomorow morning......gotta be at work by 3pm so that should leave me enough time if i get up early.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#198937
or use wheel ramps, this will mean the axles are close to horizontal, and it is easier to work under!


vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#198942
When you do get them fitted correctly make sure you check and top up the gearbox oil if required
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#198957
i used ramps to put them on but they are at my girlfreinds place (belong to her father).......this will be a stupid question but how do i change the gearbox oil?
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0 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#198984
*$2 is going to check which way hers are pointing as she realises they may be up,, as she was crawling under car at time and tightening them up at funny angle, as her elbows are not irs 180 degree angulation model*

hmmm hadn't really thought it thru there! :duh

hey nick, when undoing the plug on gearbox, get eirrin to help you hold the containor, to catch the oil, a small foam cup should do! hehehehe

*sigh* ahhh just joshing don't K!.... Just luv the smell of it, its the scent that just lingers,,,,on & on & on. :puke

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199021
wheres the plug and how do i fill it back up? what oil do i use?
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#199023
on the left side half way is the plug
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403 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#199032
btw how much did they set you back?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199038
they were 11 bucks each if i remember correctly.....not sure where the invoice is.

[Edited on 5-7-2004 by Anthiron]
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1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
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0 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#199053
use premium grade stinkyoil made from rotten dino poo! There are 2 plugs (top one in and bottom one out.lol), best bet is go to eirrins dads and drain it there, he more than likely will have the oil there. To undo my plugs I had a 16mm nut welded onto a big alan key but once again her dad will have sumfin there!lol 🙂

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199054
hmmm sounds like a plan thanks heather....i promise i wont blow up your letter box:P
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1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

dak dak ute Seriously Crusin Dubber

119 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#199057
i thought ther was three holes, one for the diff, one for the gears and one to drain??? or is ther two drain holes???

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#199059
yup sorry there are,, *sigh* I'm dodgey anyway so don't listen to me!lol

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119 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#199063
i changed my gearbox rather then my oil.... to much metal in it and i couldnt get the filler holes open, just bent my tool........

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0 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#199153
vw54 wrote:17mm not 16
:duh long day, just gonna delete post!lol. Oil still stinks though! 🙂

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#199309
and when you put the clamps on the boots, make the screw join in the clamp line up with the join in the rubber. Then when you tighten the clamp friction pulls the rubber in with it.

If you have the clamp join opposite the rubber join then friction holds the boot gap open, and tries to pinch and wrinkle the rubber on the opposite side. make sense?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199312
perfect sense wes.....in fact i tried that....didnt work all that good.....im about to go outside and have a crack at them again.

Thanks
Nick
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

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0 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#199321
just a thought, have you got them pushed to far towards the actual box? I found if you move them too close to box it ends up with gap...by wriggling them towards wheel, the gap went? (please excuse my poor posting last night, I really was tired!).🙂

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199322
i have them pushed fairly close to the box......i didnt want them to come off lol
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#199328
thanks heather
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom