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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#222589
Great!

A while ago, it loosened up, giving no fan or alternator drive torque. DOH! So, I tighten it up nice and neat, and everythings apples again!

Today, same thing happens, and my tools are at home because of the reno's. Luckily, I notice about 2 minutes drive from home, take the punt and get it home.

This time, I tighten it up, and go for one more turn when snap blammo, it's sheared off inside (plus a lovely crunchy squisho on the old fingernail). Anyone got a tip for me to get the sucker out? I don't have welding gear or anything BTW.

Taa!


barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#222594
use an easy out mate you get them at most tool places
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#222596
Taa Mate! Thanks for the advice over on the other thread. I'll go get one tomorrow, and go gentler next time!

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#222599
yeah im also a big fan of brute force and ignorance, but some time you have to be careful not to over do it 🙂
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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#222681
Torx bits make good E-Z outs..
Good luck

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#222752
Taa!

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#222767
vwombat the fan should have a moon key or for the tech term a woodruf key between the fan and crank ,as from what your saying i would suspect this is missing or brocken. You will need to remove the fan and fan hub of crank to check this and i would reckomend replacing the seal at the same time because sure as apple fall it will leak soon if you don't. Andrew
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OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#222772
PS be carefull you don't break any high tensile hardened tool in there or you are in deep deep dodo's
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224174
Here are the pics. You can see the sheared bolt in the middle. Does it look like somethings missing i.e. Moon or Woodruf keys? According to my manuals it doesn't (but they all use similar diagrams).

Taa for the help!

Martin.





vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224235
EZ Outs my arse!!!

I tried gentle, and the tip ripped off anyway!!!

Now I am officially pissed off!

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#224285
There is a woodruf key in the tapered section of the crank to locate the hub, have a look in the hub and you should see the groove cut into it for the key to engage.

But, the woodruf key does not stop the hub spinning around, the taper on the crank and the bolt hold it in place, the key is just to locate it.
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#224314
I might be too late...
You need to know how to use ezY outs.... properly....

I didn't and snapped one off in a head stud.... had to replace the head as the ezi outs were too hard for any drill to touch... I even bought titanium drill bits..

From what I now know... You drill a hole in the snapped off piece only slightly smaller than the snapped off bolt...
I just drilled a hole and snap.....
They should also be called EZY Breaks too...

the EZY outs are made to take the thread and a very small piece of the bolt... You just don't drill a hole , stick one in and whamo.. You end up in bigger trouble...

Why didn't You fellows tell VWWombat how to use the EZY OUT... properly ????

Any one can say Yeah Use an eZY OUT.... but there is a lot more to it that wasn't said...

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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224586
Taa Lee - I only snapped about 3 mm off, so I'm hoping the situation is salvagable. Good to know about the size though. I still have the bigger one intact, so I'm hoping things will go better next time (this arvo).

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224599
By the way - good to see you back on Lee! Were you naughty at Valla with those opinions of yours? It's good to see that forum ugliness has died down a bit. Let's get back into the important stuff!

BTW - it's Martin - but you can call me ignoramus!

[Edited on 26-8-2004 by vwombat]

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#224644
im sorry if i didnt give enough info but thats all i know about them and lee i gave all the info i had in an attempt to help so dont bag me for it i noticed that you were on line at the time i posted it and didnt offer any so get off my case.
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224648
It's O.K. Barls - you were a great help! Thanks again!

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#224650
not a problem mate did you end up getting it out
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224651
Not yet - I'm off to hire a right angle drill so that I can do a better job. I didn't want to drop out the engine for this rubbish job.

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#224655
yeah i used one at my old mans but he has just about every tool i need good luck mate
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224657
Thanks - I just did a plug for him over in chitchat.

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#224659
yeah i saw thanks mate

[Edited on 26-8-2004 by barls]
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224897
Bought a new viper drill bit for the job. It turns and turns and makes the hole look nice and shiny, but it aint gettin' any deeper. Any tips for drill bits? The Drill has to go back tomorrow at 3pm BTW...

fetid_swamp Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#224914
sharpen & resharpen the bit and use some inox or crc or something to keep it cool & cutting ????

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224918
I found cobalt drills as a tip on another site. I might give one of these a go!

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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#224923
yeah cobalts good for harder mat`l and stainless steel point is sharpened different to your normal drill 😎
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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#224925
and dont lubricate a cobalt drill or will crack up the surface of the drill then your stuffed again😉
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224926
Are the titanium's better? Does the bit of oil and crc that's on there cause a problem with cobalt bits?

Taa for the help Guys! And BTW I kept the other one lubricated - just made the sheen prettier! Doh!

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#224930
Thanks Mate! Off to Bunnings first thing!