If anyone watched A Current Affair on Wednesday, you would have seen the story about the fuel prices going up again.
Apparently, WE SHOULD BE PAYING ONLY 50 cents/Litre!!!
But, due to the oil companies being greedy, it is going up again.
But you say, "Why don't the petrol bouser's decrease the price for us?"
Well, as much as the petrol bousers would like to, they are being pushed and even (you could call it) ransomed into doing so. [Too long to explain, but i'm sure there is a website for all the ACA stories, ninemsn or something that can show you what i am going on about.]
But, if you dont what to have to pay a fortune, it is all our duty as customers to push the Australian government [the big guys] during election time to promise action against this issue so they can push the oil companies to be fair. We must fight and complain till we get our 50c/litre. It is RIDICULOUS how much extra we have to pay.
Show your opinion now, and winge to the government!!!
[Please note, the reasons for the price hike is not due to the oil running out {cause its not a renewable resource}, its due to greed!!!]
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Im not happy about it either, but we still pay the least amount for it in the developed world.....
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hey.. at least we don't have it as bad as in most countrys... besides US where it's cheaper then water.
The oil companies aren't the real bastards here. Sure they are more than likely taking a good gouge out of us but then again they have to build a huge capital resource for a switch to different energy sources in the next 10-50 years. It is going to cost a packet for them to start producing methane/methanol/bio fuels for which they are already starting to design new tooling and processing.
It is taxes and excises that make our prices what they are.
Fuel excise is a percentage levy. If the excise was a fixed cents per litre or capped at a certain level the prices would not hike like they do. Cummulatively on top of the excise are other taxes which are also percentage based.
These are all good facts. We do need to do something about it though.
IT IS QUITE A REDICTULOUS PRICE!!!
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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Don't belive everything you hear on ACA (or should that be anything?)
Get used to it, pettys gonna become a very scarce commodity in the years to come.
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Get your foot off the gas - it's black gold
By Christopher Kremmer
April 2, 2005 Sydney Morning Herald.
What will cost $3 a litre, require car-pooling, the permanent military occupation of Iraq and oil drilling on the Great Barrier Reef? Petrol, according to experts who have been contemplating its future in an oil-poor Australia. In Sydney, it might mean a real estate crash and a long recession. These are some of the consequences, experts say, if Australia does not wean itself off a diminishing supply of fossil fuels.
World oil prices surged yesterday after a Goldman Sachs study warned of a possible "super spike" in prices to above $US100 a barrel. Last week the average price of fuel in Australia hit an all-time high of 106.4 cents a litre. Crude oil prices have risen 500 per cent since 1999. Last year the world used about 30 billion barrels of oil - the equivalent of draining Sydney Harbour 10 times - and consumption is growing as fast as the economies of China and India.
However, according to a growing consensus among politicians, oil industry analysts and environmentalists, supplies are reaching their peak - an event once thought to be decades away - and will soon rapidly decline. "It's very possible that 2005 will be the peak year," says Richard Heinberg, author of The Party's Over: Oil, War and the Future of Industrial Societies. "If you look at new production supposed to come online this year, it's only enough to make up for depletion, and probably won't be enough to compensate for added demand from places like China and India and the US."
It is a creeping drought that never ends. Last financial year, Australia recorded its lowest crude oil output in 20 years, with production falling 16 per cent on 2002-03. "The consumption of crude oil and condensate in 2003 could be sustained by remaining economic reserves for only 11.3 years," said Geoscience Australia. With its reserves dropping fast, Australia has becoming increasingly dependent on imports, most of them from the Middle East.
Heinberg believes the violence in that region has more to do with oil futures than weapons of mass destruction or terrorism. "We're going to see increasing militarism around the world, particularly US efforts to control oil-rich regions on the pretext of terrorism," he told the Herald.
Back at the bowser in Sydney, there'll be civilian casualties. Ali Samsam Bakhtiari, an executive with Iran's national oil company, warned a conference in Perth last year that petrol in Australia could hit $3 a litre within three years. Andrew Stoeckel, of the Centre for International Economics in Canberra, scoffs at this claim. "That forecast is not believable. When the oil price rises sharply, it dampens economic activity and chokes off the price rise," he said.
According to the CIA, world oil reserves will last for about another 35 years at current demand levels. But demand growth is outstripping new finds and eating into the future. In a world where virtually everything we consume depends on oil for its production or transport, the implications are considerable. Inflation and unemployment will grow; driving will be very costly.
Heinberg said suburban planning based on freeways - championed by the State Government - would be seen as folly. "In the future it's going to be very difficult for individual people to own and operate automobiles. The expense is just going to be too great so, people will need to rely on public transportation. If that's not there, it will mean immense hardship for huge segments of the population."
In the US, car makers have cut back production amid falling demand for the once desirable four-wheel-drives while Toyota has reported a 120 per cent increase in orders for its gas-electric Prius hybrid last year. Rising oil prices will also push up the cost of air travel. Aviation fuel has risen 28 per cent in price since January, shaving millions of airline profits.
The federal Industry Minister, Ian MacFarlane, said Australia's response was "a combination of increased exploration, new technologies and a re-balancing of the overall mix of fuels used in the country with the addition of renewable alternatives and gas".
One loser could be the environment. The Government's energy white paper last year made oil drilling on the Great Barrier Reef a priority, while the US Congress last month approved President George Bush's plan to allow oil exploration in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Meanwhile, as the crisis looms, Australia is busily shipping what remains of our oil and gas overseas as fast as tankers can carry it. Recent deals worth tens of billions of dollars will give China and South Korea guaranteed access to output from the North West Shelf for up to 30 years. Americans, who consume a quarter of the world's oil output, are being told Australian gas is the answer.
"Chevron Texaco is working with governments and partner companies to secure the largest deposits of natural gas in Australia for shipment to the US," said an advertisement in the New Yorker this year. "A steady supply of cleaner fuel to light our homes and keep us warm? Sounds like a lot of g'days to come."
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Unity-28 wrote:Im not happy about it either, but we still pay the least amount for it in the developed world.....
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Not so!
It is cheaper in US, Canada,China,Phillipines, Indonesia, to name a few..
Keeping it real !
Is it? I seen a post on another forum about a month ago, that we were the cheapest in the developed world (1st world country) But maybe its changed since!? Or maybe it was per average wage.......I cant remember! Maybe Cause I dont pay for fuel!
well i paid $1.069 this arvo when it was 10c dearer down my main st all for pension day tomorrow as fuel always goes up on a wednesday up here ready for the hard done by on there pay days🙁🙁🙁
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https://www.facebook.com/FlatFourmy point of view is deal with it. items cost money to buy, and unless people don't need them, the companies will charge as much as possible make as much money as possible, its good business sense!!!!!
i do quotes all the time for jobs and if i can get an extra k out of a 10k job i will, if i can get an extra 40k out of a 1m job i will.
as oil reserves run low (and the increase in large populations of the sub continent and asia) the demand for oil will increase dramitcally, and be higher than previously predicted, therefore the oil reserves will last less and new reserves which would have made money in the future will be viable.
if you worried about paying for fuel, get a hybrid or a electric car!!!! you don't want to do this, live with the higher petrol prices.
sorry for my little rant......... just i hate people complaining about companies charging to much, but if you ran a shop, would you charge the least you could for your items( or even less than cost)? or the most and swhile still enough? i know which i would................
[Edited on 13-4-2005 by BiX]
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
We may be 'cheap' as you say but our quality of petrol is crap. Our premium unleaded(optimax, vortex, etc) is equivilent to third world countries petrol. It is ruining our cars.
BTW paid 118.9 this week:cussing
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MOST other countrys... not all
[Edited on 13-4-05 by frenzix]
:vader thems there fightin words😉
oh ya bugger ya changed your post
[Edited on 13/4/2005 by Y2K]
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
haha it's only cause you have such great mileage
haha wot mileage it doesnt come out of the garage
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
Small coastal town about 20kms away from me currently has it priced at $1.56 per litre. I shit you not!
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oh wow...so premium would be around $1.66 or more
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
The petrol price in the US has nearly doubled in the last few months according to a friend in Texas - but its still only about US70c/Lt.
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Tassie has crap fuel prices.. i payed over $1.20 a litre the other day for premium... in the middle of Hobart!
*sigh* i don't want to have to drive some silly electric car! i love my VW and its put-putiness....
I paid $1.23 a litre for Optimax last week in Melbourne. Does that make you feel better?
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fair enough to love your veedub and its dak-dak-dakiness... but petrol is going to keep going up, and rightfully so.
if in 50 years time you want our government to allow the usa to drill for oil in the barrier reef, then keep complaining that petrol is too expensive.
if you would like to keep such a beautiful natural wonder safe for future generations, then put up with it and dont complain.
dont kid yourself that they wont do it, they have been known to blatantly disregard any environmental protection act just to get prehistoric fish sludge to run their v8's.
ive got a pretty good idea... why not catch public transport? thats what its there for and in a few years time you will have no choice, so why not get used to it now? just like hotrodmatt said, they have to charge now so they will have the money to develop the energy of the future, not to mention a complete overhaul of the transport infrastructure... we arent really going to be needing such huge roads when we arent using cars in the future!!
im really looking forward to only being able to afford to drive my bug once a week ($3/L fuel will do that you know) it means that its going to stay beautiful longer!
better still, get a bike. ive saved a packet these past few months by taking public transport, walking or riding my bike. makes you healthier too
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this made alot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
yeah, its pretty crap.
Does anyone know where you can get a good electric engine that pumps out the same power as a combustion?
[Unfortunately, if I do get one, the engine will never be able to scream or growl again]
Anyway, if we rely on electricity, then that would put more pressure on the Coal power plants of Australia, and then they would charge heaps for electricity as coal runs out, and then what?
WE ARE SCREWED AS A HUMAN RACE!!!
(We depend so much on coal, oil, electricity, and it could all run out in the next half century.)
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Actually, when you think of it. This is going to be quite beneficial to our planet in a health sense, (and for us, when it comes to riding a bike).
Anyway, its up to us, our society, its physicists, Engineers, etc. to formulate a plan, and for all handiman to implement it. It would be a world project that would congrigate all nations in the globe together to fix an international problem.
[I wonder if the world would develope the nuclear fusion engine. Its an easy concept, HIGHLY powerful, uses steam, but not too environmentally friendly when it comes to the products formed]
The problem with the hydrogen engine is that it can so easily blow up, (due to it being such a flamable gas) and can easily escape due to the hydrogen atoms being so small (They can even excape through tight seals). But it is clean, however, takes a crap load of electricity to obtain from water. GOOD IDEA THOUGH!
(Except for when countries get really desperate for oil and start having a war to get it) Hopefully we do not see that.
Anyway, we will see what is to come.
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Is it true that in QLD petrol is subsidised by the state government? On average I'd pay around 0.94c for premium, when I was in NSW last month I was paying over the $1 every time I filled up, When I was in Port M I paid $1.42!!!
GO MANLY!!
Yep ain`t it grand to leave in the sunshine state :thumb
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what makes you think that the energy companies dont already have the plans for coal-free power?
they invented the water powered car decades ago (basically a hydrogen engine)... if they worked on upping the efficiency of solar power, then we wouldnt have any gripes for millions of years to come.
i think you are talking about nuclear fission... nuclear fusion is super environmentally friendly (whats a bit more iron between friends? or carbon?) but as yet they have not worked out how to produce cold fusion... the whole problem with starting a fusion reaction is that you need the energy from a fission reaction to start it, and its the biproducts of fission that are the biggest worry.... once a fusion reaction has started, its pretty much totally self sustaining.
geothermal energy, solar energy, wind energy, hydro energy, nuclear energy... even sticking massive sun sails in near earth orbit and transfering energy down via huge sheilded cables... we have so many options to power our world when the prehistoric fish have all been used up... the only thing we will need oil for is plastics, and thats already getting phased out and technology has advanced so much with materials science that we probably wont even need it for that!
dont forget how nice the air is going to be without all that icky smog everywhere... no more petrol fumes in your lungs!
in the beginning, the universe was created.
this made alot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
And less global dimming....
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Yeah i think QLD petrol is subsidised by about 10cents...
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