Girlfriends Type 3 - gearbox question

Dozza Officially Full-On Dubber

318 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 27 May 2006, 10:38 am

#493232

Can anybody help.... my girlfriend had been hassling me to fix her car for months - i told her to get in line behind the 2 splitts that I am restoring, however now the gearbox is doing all sorts of strange things.... popping out of gear - wierd grinding nad crunching noises, I am fairly sure it needs another one...

Its a 72 type three (squareback) do I need to get a replacement unit from the same year, or can I just chuck in a bettle/kombi gearbox..... probably not...

Anyone got a type three gearbox to get me out of trouble and my girlfriend back on the road???

Thanks .....

D O Z Z A:P:P

Low Slow and Cruising

Desert Bug Wolfsburg Wizard

687 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 May 2006, 10:48 am

#493233

Before ripping it out, jack the car up and slide under and have a look at the gear shift coupler to see if it is intact as this can cause miss sfits and crunching ect. Put a safety stand under or spare wheel under the other tyre before getting under.
A 4 joint Beetle box will bolt straight in.
Cheers.

[ Edited on 27-5-2006 by Desert Bug ]

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Dozza Officially Full-On Dubber

318 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 27 May 2006, 11:32 am

#493244

good advice - will try it later....

I had the car on the ramp spun the wheels and there is a distinct bearing noise from the gearbox.... but I will check the coupler.... I guess that is just near the gear box somewhere

any one else???

Low Slow and Cruising

Dozza Officially Full-On Dubber

318 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 27 May 2006, 11:34 am

#493247

when you say four joint box.... what d,you mean??

Low Slow and Cruising

koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 27 May 2006, 11:40 am

#493248

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Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 27 May 2006, 11:50 am

#493250

Also known as double jointed (Whereas the swing axles are single jointed)
The shift coupler will be at the nose of the box (Opposite end to the engine).
-Staggers.

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 27 May 2006, 9:21 pm

#493450

Sounds like it's Fk&$d. Get a replacement gearbox out of any VW with 'IRS' ("independent rear suspension") rather than 'swingaxle'. eg any 1971-on Superbeetle or L-beetle, or another type 3

[ Edited on 27-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 27 May 2006, 10:28 pm

#493483

isn't the grubscrew hole on the shift rod on the underneath side for type threes?

So if you get a beetle box you'll need to redrill the shift rod for this.

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 27 May 2006, 10:33 pm

#493485

pete wood wrote:isn't the grubscrew hole on the shift rod on the underneath side for type threes?

So if you get a beetle box you'll need to redrill the shift rod for this.

yeah, fuk, good point. But most - not all - boxes I have seen/worked with have dual holes

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Brett Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 29 May 2006, 2:09 pm

#494194

I have 2 type 3 boxes sitting on the shed floor, but I am in Central NSW, also have no history on them.

Brett

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 May 2006, 5:46 pm

#494271

Yes,
a 72 type 3 has IRS rear end with constant velocity joints.
Two on each side... this stops the camber changing as You go over a bump...
SuperBugs have this type of rear axle assembly...

I'm not sure whether type 3 gearboxes are different or not... to SuperBugs...

Just make sure You get an IRS type 3 gearbox...

best of Luck

Lee

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