track car

sub60 · 2006-05-27T02:01:10+00:00

Im hoping you good folk may be able to help me short cut some thinking time. I am building a 60 bettle for track work and Dutton etc. It will be a mid mounted ej20t using a front wheel drive subaru gearbox. The help I need is any info on gearlinkage(I have seen somewhere a rep porche) and on suspenson changes ie coilover spring poundage etc. Knowledge is all empowering and any help hints or directions would be greatly appreciated. THANKS

JVLR Slammed & Awesome Dubber

79 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 16 Jun 2006, 8:25 pm

#501437

boof2332 wrote:I love the idea, and worst case scenario is you have an unregistered TRACK WEAPON. Thats worst case. I am so excited that I'm going to do one as well.

I am trying to down load from my phone a full tube chassis rock crawler that we built recently. Not that expensive in tube, and with a tube puller a mig and a tig, you can pretty much make anything you want.

I am off to the shed to cut the back off a bug. Lets get some pics up asap. I have heaps, although this bloody phone do not want to send.

matt

:o easy is it Matt! Goodluck:P

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Jun 2006, 8:44 pm

#501446

does the subi motor fit between the spring plates / shock towers on the VW rear?

The MX6 guys told me mounting the V6 I used north south wouldn't work, lucky for me I'm stubborn 🙂

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
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guru Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 16 Jun 2006, 8:44 pm

#501447

Have a look at this site
http://www.rorty-design.com/content/beetle.htm
may be easier than you think.

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 9:34 pm

#501479

like this

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 9:35 pm

#501480

another

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guru Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 16 Jun 2006, 9:46 pm

#501485

I have a couple of pix of this in a folder but i'm stuffed if I know
how to attach them... old & computor dumb!!

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 9:46 pm

#501486

space frame ej20T

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 10:16 pm

#501502

sub60 wrote:hi boys, please dont argue over me, Im not worth it?? On all my assessments you do not have to have a tube chassis, yes there are modifications to the rear suspension and mounting points etc dont you think if you can hang a 200+hp motor off the end of a gearbox made to hold a 50-60hp motor, it would in fact be better engineering science if that motor was properly mounted to the body driving through a gearbox of the same manufacturer with modification made correctly with the guidance of an engineer, that in fact it would be OK. All modification need approval to a degree ie different brakes, roll cages thats why we have engineers to help us! No doubt I will come across problem along the way, but it will get done, be very fast, handle better, brake better(with different brakes-engineered) be safer(with cage brakes handling tyres etc etc)than a Beetle with a subi motor bolted onto a vw gearbox. This with the guidance of the engineer and my money and time. Look forward to showing you. And as I said any helpful know how would be appreciated.THANKS

Buddy, you read/sound a lot more like someone who knows what he is doing NOW that your first post! But I still don't know how you will be able to do it without ICV rego. But PLEASE use a strut front, rack-steered L-Bug as a base - it will give you more compatible camber curves etc to the Subie struts for far more predictable handling etc

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 10:29 pm

#501511

Its going in an oval !

we pulled it out of the bush last night with a skid steer by torch light

:bounce

O I did like it lots !

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 16 Jun 2006, 10:53 pm

#501519

Put the roof on an L-Bug

Mate, no engineer ovr here worth his PLI would touch that

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guru Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 16 Jun 2006, 11:36 pm

#501532

try these. i hope they work
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/guru_04/rorty1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/guru_04/rorty2.jpg

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 17 Jun 2006, 8:34 am

#501572

That has about half the tubing the rock crawler we made had.

JVLR. You know me, if I have the time and the tube...I'll give it a go. My normal work is quiet till september and I have the tube so....

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 17 Jun 2006, 9:42 am

#501579

I have the pipe bender as well mike !

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sub60 Seriously Crusin Dubber

137 posts · joined May 2005 · 17 Jun 2006, 9:48 am

#501582

Boys and Girls, this is terrific, some great photos with the V8. I wont be using a late strut front, but thanks. Pretty sure we can get it to handle with a beam front, their a lot of know how about, which is wonderful to hear. Also it will retain a basic pan to some degree, so not a full tube out. Think is it is nearly nutted out, new debate is
whether to use an tricked auto instead, last longer. Boof just wondering if you have any photos of your guard set up on your car Thanks Mike

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 17 Jun 2006, 9:51 am

#501583

I talked to my mate Max .He is happy to help out seting up the shifter for the manual box .

I think now go manual as well , more fun , more smoke as well :P

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 17 Jun 2006, 9:56 am

#501584

I have sent you a U2u as well mike

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JVLR Slammed & Awesome Dubber

79 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 17 Jun 2006, 6:01 pm

#501664

boof2332 wrote:That has about half the tubing the rock crawler we made had.

JVLR. You know me, if I have the time and the tube...I'll give it a go. My normal work is quiet till september and I have the tube so....

Matt,:thumbm8 it takes time research and learning.The designs here are very basic to what i have Matt.None of those chassis show me any proper tie in points.The shell & chassis must work as one structual item.No good just having a chassis thats stiff and the body(Shell flexing all over the place)...I can go on.Boys get a Cad design program its worth it.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 17 Jun 2006, 6:56 pm

#501701

sub60 wrote:Boys and Girls, this is terrific, some great photos with the V8. I wont be using a late strut front, but thanks. Pretty sure we can get it to handle with a beam front, their a lot of know how about, which is wonderful to hear. Also it will retain a basic pan to some degree, so not a full tube out. Think is it is nearly nutted out, new debate is
whether to use an tricked auto instead, last longer. Boof just wondering if you have any photos of your guard set up on your car Thanks Mike

Nice pics, but what happens in a garage in Europe or wherever doesn't matter here...

Mid-mount engine = ICV = brand new car = current ADRs.

Sorry, I can't see how you can comply with any safety-related ADRs with with an early Beetle

[ Edited on 17-6-2006 by VWCOOL ]

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71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 17 Jun 2006, 7:50 pm

#501736

would i be mistaken to say that it is an australian guy who sells those plans?.

Anthony