Hi Uboat,
you're certainly keen on discussing this then. 🙂
Been reading the Da Vinci code by any chance?
You're right, Christianity is not the newest kid on the block, but it's precursor Judaism is one of the oldest faiths in history.
BTW, before you answer this can you go back and read my other posts, most of what you have asked I dealt with earlier.
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ok, I can see where this debate is heading again. Just like last time. Allow me to short circuit it.
Dan Brown and most other peoples attack on Christianity centres on two things. The bible's authenticity and the people who run the church. We can argue about those infinitem and never come up with an answer. Let me offer a different solution...
Christianity is based on the teaching and life of Jesus. Both of those thing are recorded in the bible, in particular in the gospels. We are told at the beginning of these books, by the authors, why the books have been written. Just like Da Vinci Code. Now many of us read that book and were willing to give it a fair reading and make up our own minds. I suggest the same thing with the bible.
To anyone who is interested, I will email a copy of the gospel of Mark. The second book in the new testament and its not very long. Read through for yourself and decide for yourself. Do you think the people who recorded these events are telling the truth? If they are, what does that mean?
Don't worry about what you have heard elsewhere, just give it a fair reading and decide for yourself. That's all I ask.
u2u me your email if you want a copy of Mark.
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Feel free for this discussion. Its interesting.
Cause i went to a catholic school for 12 yrs, we been looking into this stuff for yonks.
Historians have actually found ancient scrolls by the shores of the red sea containing info on the census's that have taken place within that area of the middle east. These census's have actually confirmed Christ's existance.
The plural for census, is is census's ? Neah. u get the drift.
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let's not get off track Chris. How bout I email you the stuff.
no worries mate.
Got a few bibles lying around here. What we trying to look for when it comes to Mark in the new testament? (when u send us it?)
they say that all the disciples wrote in different styles about the same thing. Apparently matthew's was the easiest to read, Luke was very.. well i can't remember, but there was something where they told the story through different perspectives.
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you have email Chris.
mark is 2nd book in the New Testament.
cheers Mr. Wood 😀
Will have a read. Bad weather outside, although its good weather to sit and have a read.
Will bring back thoughts when done.
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continually amazed how you can find yourself in a hole chris lol :thumb :thumb
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lol, Unfortunately a part of my character nick, Hehe. I'm a colourful fella who gets into colourful situations, Lol. Well, all unitentionally... Maybe i'm a bit coo coo in the head. Hehe
Hey pete, read the Gospel of Mark u sent me, was a long read. Neva read it all at once before. It was some very interesting material, and its been able 6 months since i have refreshed on it (since i graduated). Thanks for that mate. Bit of a faith booster for me.
The way it is written, the chronology of it all poses very realistic. along with the Dead sea scrolls (with the census, or was it Red Sea?) I was educated about at school in religion.
Christianity is based on Christ, otherwise its Judaism etc.
I know there are alot of non-believers, each to their own though. As long as everyone strives to have respect, morals, love and care for each other, i'm sure the big man (God) would be happy either way, whether they believe or not. Its something we should all strive for inside each other, regardless of beliefs. :kiss
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bajachris88 wrote:I know there are alot of non-believers, each to their own though. As long as everyone strives to have respect, morals, love and care for each other, i'm sure the big man (God) would be happy either way, whether they believe or not. Its something we should all strive for inside each other, regardless of beliefs. :kiss
well said Chris! Although I'm an Atheist I don't deny that there very well could be a higher power of some form and I think faith is something everyone needs. As long as everyone is accepting and tolerant, there really shouldn't be any reason why everyone can't get along..
Although that never quite seems to work in practice..
🙁pete wood wrote:Hi Uboat,
you're certainly keen on discussing this then. 🙂
#Maybe!
Been reading the Da Vinci code by any chance?
#yep...but oh so boring, especially the ending!
You're right, Christianity is not the newest kid on the block, but it's precursor Judaism is one of the oldest faiths in history.
# Didn't say it was the 'newest' said Its not the oldest............nor is judaism! But hey what is a religion or belief?
BTW, before you answer this can you go back and read my other posts, most of what you have asked I dealt with earlier.
# Yep , did that, don't believe in tunnel vision. What about Ikea, try and think outside your square!
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how do you mean try and think outside your square? I own a buggy. 😂 but seriously?
