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What has Dave Been Up To? 29th AUG 2015: 10.66@126.09mph!!

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#824096
Had to change the filter bracket too...



westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

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dangerous wrote:For these:


So how thick will the largest diameter be (o/d), and would that be in the centre across the length?
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#824144
3/4" will be what they finish at.
Not sure yet whether they will be tapered from both ends to the middle
or just a short section each end.
This will depend on clearance within the push rod tube.



westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

STOCK Wolfsburg Wizard

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#824818
looking good dave
holy shit there's no way your bending thos push rods
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#824822
When do we see the 'finished' pushrod Dave??
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20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

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Looking good Dave, are they about the same height as the old runners?
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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

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The never ending battle to find more.................
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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Runners will be the same length as the old ones.
Pushrods will be finished when I get my valves and springs.
This way I can see where they will actually run, and finalize the length.(all before hardening)
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#825642
Springs, retainers and collets arrived.
Also some cups to locate the bottom of the springs.
Retainers and collets are both Titanium.



Will have to machine out the spring seat and guide boss to fit them in.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#825643
That is a CB dual spring from some 044s above for comparison.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

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#825645
wholly crap they are some serious springs.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

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#825647
Looking good Dave.
Like the progress 👍

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Stanley wrote:wholly crap they are some serious springs.
X2!!!
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#825725
Made this tool today to cut the spring seat and boss to size.



The outside diameter location:



The boss which i have stepped slightly so as to hold the spring tight at the base.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#825727
Began off setting the pushrod tube holes.



Will cut the chamfer tomorrow.

Will have to devise a new method to fit and test the springs.
These things use as much tension just to get the collets in,
than what I had before at full lift!

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#825728
This is an old Big Block Chev valve that I lengthened to fit ,
just for my trial assemblies,
until my actual valves arrive.





westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

STOCK Wolfsburg Wizard

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#825738
looks awesome dave
you are a freak
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westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#826093
why not titanium push rod's.hey.
now that sounds like a plan.
as alway's dave great work.
can't wait to see the finall set up .
down sharon.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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Titanium is not a good pushrod material.
It is more suited to springs.
Some years ago a customer used some in a 1500cc speedway application,
and they survived fine, but were flexing about 1/2".
It lost so much timing
that a change to chomoly required a duration reduction on a new cam
of like 20 degrees to restore lost HP at lower rpm.

3M actually make an aluminium matrix material that is a possible candidate,
but these springs may even test those $1000 niceties.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#826110
Wow Dave, who would think composite push rods could operate those HUGE valve springs. 👍
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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matberry wrote:Wow Dave, who would thing composite push rods could operate those HUGE valve springs. 👍

Actually, I am not so sure that they would.
But if any alum push rod had a chance,
these would be the ones to try.

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westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

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Hmmm... interesting... ceramic fiber turning up everywhere !!!

But, I'll be the dodo that asks... do stiffer pushrods actually reduce valve float ???

I would've thought being stiffer would give more lift (due to less bend), and sort of "sharpen" the shape of the cam at full lift over a pushrod that bends under pressure... which is almost the opposite of what their graph thing shows....

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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Sides wrote:Hmmm... interesting... ceramic fiber turning up everywhere !!!

But, I'll be the dodo that asks... do stiffer pushrods actually reduce valve float ???

I would've thought being stiffer would give more lift (due to less bend), and sort of "sharpen" the shape of the cam at full lift over a pushrod that bends under pressure... which is almost the opposite of what their graph thing shows....

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Hi Dave,
it all comes down to terminology really.

If we call it"loss of valvetrain control", then yes,
a stiffer pushrod has less chance of inducing vibration
into the springs.

If it were a simple matter of the spring to keep everything tracking the cam lobe,
then heavier components would require more tension to do the job.
But there are so many other influences that make valvetrain control a constant battle.

Some times everything from a cam lobe profile, to a pushrod that is not quite right in its design,
can change things from one engine to another, even when all else is equal.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#827267
New valve guides for the inlet.
This is the second set.
The first set i made were a little short (in hind-sight).



Pushrods all drilled and roughed out:

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#827268
Pushrod peepers.



New tube seal plates.
Made from 7075:





These new tubes are made from buth tube, (32mm) and solid that is machined to size,(27mm)

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

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#827269
Manifolds and ram tube adapters finished.



westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

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#827306
Lookin' good Davo.....how long till it makes some noise?

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

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#827313
Dave, are you using anything special for seals on the pushrod tubes,or stretching OG ones to fit?