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fatboy Disciple of Kol

603 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#55483
GGAAARGH !

Andrew - can you change "sluts" to 5luts for me my stupid ISP filtering wont let me into this post anymore
" Captain Picard, why are there no Indians on the Enterprise ? Don't you need IT Support ? "

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55491
fatboy,

maybe it's time for a new ISP?

Andrew

PostModern Slammed & Awesome Dubber

89 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#55499
fatboy wrote:GGAAARGH !

Andrew - can you change "sluts" to 5luts for me my stupid ISP filtering wont let me into this post anymore
Isn't NetNanny supposed to be installed on your side of the modem? ;p (out of curiousity, what ISP do you use?)

Andrew, I like the newest draft. Looking good.

KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55538
Perhaps I should clarify: I have no intention of breaking the rules, but if I do happen to break them, I am happy to accept the consequences as stipulated in the forum rules. 🙂
Kruizin Kol

fatboy Disciple of Kol

603 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#55588
HEY I"M BACK IN.

I'm with TPG on an unlimited business ADSL plan.
When I signed up they were advertising it has having "web filtering of undesirable content" as a "feature" I assumed that as one of the owners of the company that I got to say what is undesireable. But no, they actually scan each page as I download it and block sites which contain naughty words, gaming sites (cant even check my Tatts ticket) and of course Nudi-sites.

Until the last 2 weeks there secutrity was crap so I could bypass it by using a free proxy server (In Thailand) at the expense of speed - but they have now caught on to this.

The good news is that I am moving house this weekend and although I plan to stay with TPG they now have a non-business plan ($20 less per month) that is not restricted so I will be going with that.
I have done some testing and as you can imagine when they aren't intercepting and filtering every page it is MUCH MUCH faster.

Rant over - thanks Andrew :thumb
" Captain Picard, why are there no Indians on the Enterprise ? Don't you need IT Support ? "

haugmichael Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55677
i have been apeesed with some of the rule changes, but I think you may need to look at one of your clauses.


In a clause about posting pictures you say it cannot be posted unless you own the copyright to it, well what happens when I post a picture from another site for example vintagebus.com or from samba.com and ask for people's comments or show what someone has done to their VW is this then not in breach of the new rules and if it is then 90% of members are guilty of this offence

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55680
I just got an interesting bit of spam. Cash for my opinion. I could be rich.

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Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

fatboy Disciple of Kol

603 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#55709
I dont know eh, and here we all are just givin it away 😀
" Captain Picard, why are there no Indians on the Enterprise ? Don't you need IT Support ? "

Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55887
But they weren't stipulated Col & that's been my entire arguement for 3 of the 4 pages.

The indemnity for the forum was clear.
But rules on how we 'speak' to each other were questionable to say the least.

As I said 'harrassing' was way to broad, the only other word that has a wider meaning is 'IT', which CAN be used to descibe absolutely anything.
"Knowingly" was real thin ice.

Take my last example, I went looking for that post yesterday & it actually says morons not rednecks.
As I said to Jay last night, I know I'm no oil painting, & I have to laugh when I read it, because this girl could have no possible idea of how close to the mark she came.
But the point remains, had I been remotely self conscious about my teeth, that post would have fallen foul of the rules.

So you end up with the situation of some poor girl being asked to justify her spot on the forum for making a knowingly hateful remark about Spook, when her only reply could be "WHO?".

I couldn't accept that happening to someone else & I certainly wouldn't accept it happening to me.

I'll apologise in advance for my next statement, to the members in general, but in particular to those who I have had merry banter with here in the forum,the chat room, icq, messenger & on the phone.
Rest assured, should we meet you will be greeted as a friend should be.
A warm handshake from the right & a cold beer from the left.

But, the cold reality is, aside from the handfull of members I have physically met, the members of this forum are nothing but nicknames on a computer screen to me, as I am to you.
We have some minor insight into each others minds, but we don't really know each other.

The rules you would have accepted would have meant knowing where the line was drawn for each & every one of us.

They had to be changed & they have been.
Now I'm happy........😎

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Spook]
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.

haugmichael Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55922
The disclaimer/rules are clear here http://www.volkszone.com/ and I'm sure it would suit here as well.

It gives those that like a little naughty stuff with VWs to post those items, and because MODs have to supply a password before anyone can enter this part of the site then those under age cannot enter, and for those that Adult content is offensive you don't need to apply for a password. So everyone is covered.

Remember the K.I.S.S rule and that is all that is needed, not all of this POLITITCAL CORRECTNESS.

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#55971
Michael,

I think if you look at:

http://www.volkszone.com/terms.shtml

It's actually far more restrictive than the current draft of the rules. Are you really proposing we ditch our rules for those?

Also, they're in England. We'd have to get the legalese translated to our state-based swamp of defamation laws. And yes, our defamation laws are far more draconian than the UK as they're using common law (from my understanding).

As for the nudity issue, it simply cannot exist here as it could get us terminated without notice. I'm absolutely not going to repeat that again, and it's not up for discussion. If you truly want that sort of stuff, head off to one of the many, many sites that cater for your visceral needs before coming back here to get your VW and community needs sorted.

Andrew

twoguns simply aircooled

4,275 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#55985
i think that with my limited knowledge and yet unlimited way of thinking i am happy to move on from this subject and accept the latest draft of rules.

simply cruizin'.
:kiss
Simply Cruzin'...

fatboy Disciple of Kol

603 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#55993
LOL 😀:o😀 :P😉
" Captain Picard, why are there no Indians on the Enterprise ? Don't you need IT Support ? "

Shani Seriously Crusin Dubber

147 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#55995
C'mon green! Quit beating about the bush and tell us what you really think! 😉

haugmichael Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#56010
Vanderjay

If you truly want that sort of stuff, head off to one of the many, many sites that cater for your visceral needs before coming back here to get your VW and community needs sorted

I never have posted any nudity nor propose to in this forum so don't assume

The last part of your reply to my post I thought offensive to me

YOU HAVE NOW BROKEN ONE OF YOUR OWN RULES.

this is the point that I believe spook was trying to make

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#56066
Michael,

Insert lots of smileys 🙂 here...

Let's start with your avatar. It's got an unauthorized image of Calvin urinating on a Golf. Let's leave alone for a second the fact that you are dissing a great VW product (heresy!), but if you knew anything about Bill Watterson, Calvin's artist, you'd know that he'd never draw such a thing, and doesn't license any of his cartoons for merchandise, such as these awful stickers. It's known that he particularly hates those "Calvin pisses on..." stickers.

Read this:

http://members.tripod.com/~cabbresson/ch_licensing.htm

And you seemed to have missed my conditional "If you're truly interested in this stuff...". You post about the nudity issue a bit, so I sort of assumed you'd be in to it. But I didn't know, so I let it open for interpretation.

... Just pulling your chain. 🙂 Insert lots more smilies here. 🙂

Anyway, on a more serious note, I'm glad people are starting to get comfortable with the draft 3 rules. Keep the suggestions coming.

Andrew

ps. For "political correctness" substitute "polite". Why is everyone so down on being polite?

[Edited on 11-6-2003 by vanderaj]

Adam_C Custom Title Time!

1,180 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#56089
Andrew ,
the australian legal system is based on the english system which is based on the adversarial processes (where 2 parties argue thier case) common law is just laws made by judges and the courts which includes precedents ..... whereas legislative law is parliamentary made law

the point of the shit dribbling . . . .english dont just use common law or thier parliament need not exist . . . ya get me?
:jesus:jesus


hmmm Legal studies . . . tho'd hav thought it would come in handy LOL

and those who know more feel free to correct me if im wrong
Adam
Adzslick@iprimus.com.au

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#56118
Adam,

we're both right and wrong. The English have indeed a far worse system of libel than we do, but it is indeed a common law tort. There is a defamation law (1952), but most of the case law surrounding English libel is where the problems creep in. It's very hard to win against a defamation allegation in England.

Andrew

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#56123
But at least truth and proof are a defence in English law.

Not so in NSW.

Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#56207
Do you really want to see where truth & proof are never allowed to get in the way of a good yarn?

Go to the Family Court.......:puke

[Edited on 11-6-2003 by Spook]
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.

The_Bronze. Minister of Volkswagenism

1,922 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#56512
I'm with those other - lets move on.

I like that handshake cold beer thingy Spook - Have to practice that again some time mate.

I'll bring around some more water bombs to keep the kids cool!
Bronze.

Rathmines, Lake Macquarie, NSW.

haugmichael Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#56748
The avatar I have been using for quite some time & the idea was not to diss on a VW product, but to point out that vehicle is watercooled. The image didn't exactly show calvin urinating put I can see that you may have seen it that way. So to try and apees you I have changes the avatar

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#60342
a couple of quotes from earlier.. sorry just read all five pages and realised i hadn't added to the melee yet.
vanderaj: "I think the current standard of "reasonable person" is someone who likes watching A Current Affair and thinks it is a fair and balanced journalistic bastion of integrity."

hahahahahaahhahaahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahaahaahaahhahhhhaa *cough* hahahahahhhaahaha

great. now we're fucked.
😀

Vanderaj: "And plus their lawyers are usually conversant on what will and wont get it up in court. "

I may be taking this out of context, but you see what i mean..
😀
lawyers should spend more time on the case and less time perving and stroking (not that stroking is bad, it just may shorten your case life.. bwahahahah)
let sleeping dubs lie

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#60354
sorry about the current affair thing. these are my opinions, not those of anyone with anything to do with being liable for anything on aussieveedubbers.com...
in fact most 'current affair' type programs make me want to ram a crowbar thru the screen... have to get an insulated one.

".... And next, the [boy who sharpens axes and uses them to hack his limbs off while singing our theme song, or the unrepentant dole bludger, or the horse that has three legs but the owner loves him anyway, or some nutcase with a jumper over his/her head, or we get to the bottom of the washing detergent scandal again, or we find out how eating fat can be healthy for eskimos, or miracle water gives drying dolphin chance to swim again]... more after the break." (cheesy grin)

no offense to pizzahutvenboys for the cheese ref.
let sleeping dubs lie

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#68588
We back onto this again ?

Did I mention that there is only one VW in Tonga ? and it is a Red 71 Kombi that has seen many a better day.

The road rules over here are pretty simple stay on the left and don't hit anyone. Thsi approach works well and I haven't seen any accidents yet.

Why don't we just register the forum over here and then we can say what we want ?
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#69059
Did ya sign him up to the forum??🙂
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.

Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#70678
Where is he gonna plug in his computer?
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"