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GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·

#765345
Same as Jak, after market ECU and no problems. I had tried to run the subi ecu from the start but always had gremlins 😬
1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#765351
Jak Rizzo wrote:
JVLRacing wrote:My one fan worked of ECU......but never ran at those temps u blokes are at....
thats cause u never F*&king drove it!😂 LMFAO!

Hi Joel,
I too had my pod filter sitting under the air vents under the back window. Thats when I cracked a piston skirt due to too hot air intake temps, BUT, I put mine on the track & it's turboed. But still , I would have the pod filter totally enclosed from the engine bay, at least it will be legal then as well.
As for the decklid, I would definantly go back the original with the slots in it, they actually let hot air out, not in, so would help with the heatsoak that our Subie engines are renown for.
If u want to check your intake temps, just get a probe with digital display form jaycar, cost me $45. Not totally needed though since u are normally aspirated.

regards
Jak

PS black wheels look great!
Wat jak! takin pot shots are u....little do u know😂 Heatsoak Jak REALLY!

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#765353
u don't get heatsoak unless u drive the car either! JVL really?😂

jak

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#765355
Jak Rizzo wrote:u don't get heatsoak unless u drive the car either! JVL really?😂

jak
pissin in ur pocket again jako haha

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765357
ahh you two are a crack up

now i have both lids painted up all ill do is swap the vented one in summer and warmer periods and the non vented one for monsoonal periods like we seem to be having atm.
no joke it hasnt stopped raining in over 36hours
but atleast all my tanks are full

takes me 30 secs to swap them over,
R clips, best invention ever

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#765369
3 days of constant rain here.... not fun for driving my car here....

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#765383
[/quote]pissin in ur pocket again jako haha [/quote]

No John, pissing in my pocket & giving advice on things that I have actually done are 2 different things.

Joel,
Are u coming to the Nationals Supersprint this year? I've never actually seen your car in the flesh. Would be good to finally catch up.
regards
Jak

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765384
i am so over rain at the moment its not funny
was getting chronic fucking cabin fever being stuck in the house so i decided to do the little kid thing and chuck on some gumboots and go vent my frustration in some puddles

nah not really but i did stick my head in the shed and thank god my bug is still intown at mum and dads cos my poor laser is submerged

its only 1" deep and barely wetting the tyres 🙄 but thats beside the point
i cant get in it without getting my feet wet 😂

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765385
not sure yet jak, would like to make the nats this year

just gotta con the parents so they can come out here and feed the animals when i go away
might have to bribe good seeing as vallas coming up soon too

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#765386
Jak Rizzo wrote:
pissin in ur pocket again jako haha [/quote]

No John, pissing in my pocket & giving advice on things that I have actually done are 2 different things.

Joel,
Are u coming to the Nationals Supersprint this year? I've never actually seen your car in the flesh. Would be good to finally catch up.
regards
Jak [/quote]

So now ur expert how to piss in ur pants! sweet..😂
Just remember lots of ur advice has come from people who know as well!

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#765387
Joel wrote:i am so over rain at the moment its not funny
was getting chronic fucking cabin fever so i decided to do the little kid thing and chuck on some gumboots and go vent my frustration in some puddles

nah not really but i did stick my head in the shed and thank god my bug is still intown at mum and dads cos my poor laser is submerged

its only 1" deep and barely wetting the tyres 🙄 but thats beside the point
i cant get in it without getting my feet wet 😂
ur gettin alot more rain then we here in Coffs!....i heard on the rad shit more to come

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765388
i think up the coast has been copping it worse than we have

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#765389
Joel wrote:i think up the coast has been copping it worse than we have
yeh agree

Mate really impress with the car looks good easily one of the best...

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765390
Jak Rizzo wrote:Sorry Joel, but my air intake only increased my intake noise & also the blow off valve noise. it comes right into the drivers window.............................I love it!
It's so quiet I have to have some fun!
Just found out i dont need one of them fancy turbo engines to get the same cool noise as you

just need one of them wanker iphone things



how lame

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#765538
Joel wrote:the one for the fans Pete?
nope the stock ECU sensor.

the fan switch sensor is in the top radiator hose as it comes out the engine at the back of the car. I used to have it at the front but the engine used to heat up too much before the sensor caught the drift. I tried lowering the deg setting but then the fans ran for too long.

also, just reiterating what Jak said re lower air temps making a huge difference. Drove mine all day yesterday in 25deg outside and the temp never got much above 87-88 deg. For the last few months it's been 90deg on the freeway. Funny how much difference it makes. If I drive it in winter on a rainy day, it struggles to get above 85deg.

p.s. I'm loving my heater, I know people think I'm a nana for having one in a buggy, but that hot water powered heater is awesome. 😎
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#765553
cheers,

im undecided at this stage yet if i'll put a heater in, dont really need one much around here

i did have working vw heaters for ages but removed them as i just never used the car when it was cold

im thinking my water temps stay so consistant cos i have a nice short heater return loop with no heater core inline.
works well in a subaru but in a vw which usually have the heatercore along way from the engine can cause overheating

most of the vanagon guys have real dramas cos the heater cores in those are so big and there usually 2 of them too, they have to run an extra bypass hose

kommodius Learner Dubber

2 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#772229
I've only just joined this forum and I did it to look for exactly this kind of information.

A brilliant write up Joel. You answered virtually every question I had!
Great pics too.

Thanks a lot!

Ray & da Boyz

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#772266
thats what it's here for 😉

kombibob AKA: Volkswagen Type 2 Transporter Van Robert

1,698 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#772268
yep i think i have gone over this thread from start to finish just about every night for the last 3 weeks.. ha ha
1961 swb buggy
1960 karmann ghia
1963 Single Cab: "El Concreto"
1963 bent 23 window " Frieda Samba "
1963 Eriba Faun camper " Cara Van daCamp"
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Get down low and go,go,go

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#772675
Aside from the few people that have been for a ride in it noone has seen what accelaration is like so here ya's go
excuse my ugly mug





that was vid 1 of 2.
first one i took down a street in the industrial estate which was probably a stupid move and secondly i made the rookie mistake of hitting rev limiter in 2nd gear

dunno how many of you have heard a subi with a big exhaust hitting the rev limiter but it sounds like a dog barking 😂

as you can see i got a dumbshit speedo, i need to try another in it
its bit slow to register properly and according to GPS it reads 5km/h fast which is probably because of my front tyre size.

but that taken into account works out to roughly 0-100 in 6.5sec which is over 1 sec quicker than my blown 1776

seeemed strange at first, they're both putting down about same power but then i twigged..... its the rev range

my 1776 only has a balanced non c/w crank so i dont take it over 5k
the EJ hits revlimiter at 6.5k so im still in 2nd by the time i hit 100km/h
the 1776 was in 3rd and ready for 4th at about 115km/h

not a bad effort for a 15 year old $550 engine
same time as the current SS commodore

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#772677
where is the one where you hit the limiter?

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#772679
I'm not putting that one up, i wasnt driving into the sun so its pretty obvious that im in an industrial estate and signs on the shops give away which one it is too


i normally atleast do this kind of irresponsible driving out of town

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#772765
Yeah.... Don't encourage the little ones to misbehave Joel!

Can't view the video now (stupid iPhone, I'm seriously overthis thing!!!) will check it out this arvo. Pretty sure I'm still impressed from my ride at the pie. 🙂

rose doin it for d girls

2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#772849
Keep it for the track see you at Gunnedah. It takes me 10.7sec in Buz on the track to get to 103klms
Joel wrote:I'm not putting that one up, i wasnt driving into the sun so its pretty obvious that im in an industrial estate and signs on the shops give away which one it is too


i normally atleast do this kind of irresponsible driving out of town

ElusiveStranger Officially Full-On Dubber

330 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#772940
Sounds sweeeeeeeeeeeet dude

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#772987
rose wrote:Keep it for the track see you at Gunnedah. It takes me 10.7sec in Buz on the track to get to 103klms
pffft come watch me at summerland drags 😉

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#792774
Geez, I actually had to go back 3 pages to find this thread
so I guess I should bump it with a new video





Nothing like that subi rumble bouncing of concrete dividers, not that my camera picks it up over the wind noise
but anyway a good example of how these engines will happily lug about in town traffic
Find me a 150hp VW engine that will effortlessly pull out of a round-about from 40km/h in 4th like that with an Lbug gearbox and still get less than 8.7L/100km and I'll gladly swap back


Seeing as I've just ticked over 5000kms since the new engine went in I suppose I should update, except there's not really much to update about
I've had 5000kms of trouble free motoring, my average tank gets 8.7L/100km with mainly round town running about and the drive out to my house is 20kms of winding hilly rural road so it's not exactly ideal economy conditions

but still not bad for a 2.2L 100kw engine, my 1.8L 92kw laser under the same conditions only gets 8.2L/100km
gets alot better on the motorway naturally, best ive got so far is 7.2L/100

The coolant level has not been touched since the engine went in and when cold is still at the same level as when it went in back in late November
I have swapped to a new stepper movement style temp gauge for better accuracy though
I checked the calibration of it and the old gauge when i swapped them and as I suspected all along my old gauge was reading high.
7c to high to be exact, but the new one is spot on to the degree
So it turns out that it's happy temp that it always likes to sit on is really 82c


It's become fairly obvious that I've over engineered my cooling system, in that 5000kms the cooling fan has only ever come on twice and that was sitting in the bumper to bumper traffic trying to get into Byron at easter time

It doesnt run cool though, infact no matter what ambient temp from cold it only ever takes 6-8 mins to hit 82c and it just sits there never drops below and has to sit stationary for a good 10 mins before the fan comes on at 95c
All that with a stock genuine subi thermostat and water pump, I'll be interested to see how hooking up my heater effects it though.

After Valla i gotta drop it out to do a few jobs like hooking up the heater and fixing the epic oil leakage I have happening at the moment, it's just like having a real VW engine in there
In a rush to get the new engine in i didnt do the best job in sealing the sump when i swapped it and my rocker cover gaskets are leaking too
the bodywork is in the way to get them off with it in situ

Also while its out #2 cylinder is burning a touch of oil after highway runs so i gotta pull it down and find out why
Its still has perfect compression and doesnt do it with low speed town driving for some reason
the Subi Guru here says its common on these jap import motors that spend ages just idling in traffic that the rings gum up we shall see anyway, may just be a a crook valve stem seal
but I'm gonna run some of that subi upper engine cleaner that everyone raves about through it and see if that makes any difference

ElusiveStranger Officially Full-On Dubber

330 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#792923
Sounds nice 🙂
It's weird having a motor in the back that you occasionally see, isn't it?!
I saw mine the other day when I was fiddling with my reversing lights - I'd forgotten it was in there.

rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#792942
yeah subaru engines are boring...til you put your foot down🤘