Craigy

ian.mezz · 2009-09-01T05:15:19+00:00

so how much does a new specs twin plug steroid stan motor cost these days for those people who may want a 138hp vw motor for their bug?????

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Oct 2009, 12:33 pm

#743892

138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 29 Oct 2009, 1:10 pm

#743900

GTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘

2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc

So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.

My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 29 Oct 2009, 3:07 pm

#743920

HP = Investment / Time + Continual Improvement.

As Pete said, Craig and Stan haven't got to where they are by sitting on their asses. The figures that Craig is getting as per the equation, is by an investment into his motor combination over a period of time, and continually striving for that extra edge. That's how you get in front of the pack. When it comes to circuit racing, no one is going to give away their secrets. The tweaking that's been done is a financial investment to get to those figures, and when you're racing, you want to have more power and a better setup than your opponent. Yeah you can buy something off the shelf that will be close to Craig's, but if you want to get those figures, you're going to be up for some $$$$$$$$$.

PAZZAN Wolfsburg Wizard

592 posts · joined Jan 2008 · 29 Oct 2009, 4:10 pm

#743937

EASY GUYS 130 HP = $13000.00...DON'T KNOW WHAT STAN CHARGES....OR BUY MY CAR....

PAZZAN Wolfsburg Wizard

592 posts · joined Jan 2008 · 29 Oct 2009, 4:12 pm

#743938

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Oct 2009, 4:17 pm

#743940

Craig Torrens wrote:
GTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc

So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.

My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂

Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010 if you like 😂

Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Oct 2009, 5:02 pm

#743945

Hi

The 1.7 is a CAMS thing. Which still means you cant compare NA to turbo.

Steve

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 29 Oct 2009, 7:48 pm

#744005

GTMac wrote:
Craig Torrens wrote:
GTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc

So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.

My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂
Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010 if you like 😂

Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?

yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Oct 2009, 8:44 pm

#744025

yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂 [/quote]

We can do that now if you like, mine dont blow smoke! Or do Mitsubishi actually make one engine that does not blow smoke?

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

spdterence Seriously Crusin Dubber

143 posts · joined May 2008 · 29 Oct 2009, 9:23 pm

#744039

I love these threads - hilarious!
For me it is a fantastic thing that Stan Pobjoy has been a constant part of the VW scene for years.

He is a real character from a bygone era - he was formally trained in manufacturing - in the aviation industry no less!
Trained in an era when real standards mattered and if you got it wrong you got your arse handed to you by your supervisor.

I wonder how much real understanding is taught now - or is all 'protocol driven' CNC crap. To think your way around a problem takes real understanding - not guesswork.

I think all would be better off trying to understand how Stan does it - after all - he is still the benchmark.

This should be fun, 😂

Smile - It confuses people😀

Today:
Aussie 69 IRS pan Brazilian curves
1916cc of Stans magic
Fat boy stainless extractors
Craig & Tims 3 bar stiffy

Tomorrow
Cooookies
Better brakes

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 29 Oct 2009, 9:38 pm

#744048

Who's Stan? 😂

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 · 29 Oct 2009, 11:16 pm

#744067

well said,

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 30 Oct 2009, 5:16 am

#744071

Craig Torrens wrote:yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂

Sigma's are cool cars.
I did not know you were a fan of them Craig?

I'd love to get in on this discussion,
but unfortunatly I dont make anywhere near those hp/cc numbers.

Now all I have, to assist with my elevated sense of self esteem,
is my enormous genitals.😂

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 30 Oct 2009, 6:26 pm

#744159

Dave you are a sick and surprisingly comic guy 👍👍👍

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 30 Oct 2009, 10:13 pm

#744202

OMG

Where has this thread gone???

Com'on Muffin man.....WAKE UP

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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mactaylor Custom Title Time!

1,005 posts · joined Aug 2007 · 31 Oct 2009, 5:51 am

#744219

self deriding comic legend! maybe dave you should start whoring you body out. just imagine how fast your pan car would go with all the money you would be making.

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JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 31 Oct 2009, 6:05 pm

#744326

THIS is a good 😂 topic ive seen lol....Ian i have chicken salt on my popcorn thanks.....😂

Performance motor builders never give out there secrets!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 31 Oct 2009, 6:54 pm

#744338

this is not, a good thread.