funbug Seriously Crusin Dubber
135 posts · joined May 2006 ·
Will heater boxes work with the Kafer Cup style brace that you are running?
Any ideas for heating without heater boxes?
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
The Kafer cup bar fits around the heater boxes OK, I needed to fit them at an angle to clear the heater boxes.
Steve
The Kafer cup bar fits around the heater boxes OK, I needed to fit them at an angle to clear the heater boxes.
Steve
DaveCarter Officially Full-On Dubber
285 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·
As requested here is the driveway from hell. Thought i would get one video on the way up and one on the way down.
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
What if you reverse in and revrse out?
DaveCarter Officially Full-On Dubber
285 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·
Then i rip my extractors off and the kamei just scrapes the other way.
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
ah yes, instead of concrete maybe just some bits of checkerplate,
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
Pretty sure you arent looking for solutions for the driveway... it was more that i just asked to see it. so thanks 🙂.
i do have a solution though.. and me and stidub discussed this quite alot... you need to sell that place. and get a flat block with a 4 spots for parking, with a hoist. solved.
i do have a solution though.. and me and stidub discussed this quite alot... you need to sell that place. and get a flat block with a 4 spots for parking, with a hoist. solved.
DaveCarter Officially Full-On Dubber
285 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·
But then i would have to move out of lugarno which i would never do. ever.
71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh
1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·
So dave, is your dad doing anything bout heaters, cause i want one two
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
look further down this page. I found this while looking up dry sump setups.
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=115395&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=115395&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:So dave, is your dad doing anything bout heaters, cause i want one two
vlad01, that looks like a good way out as well.
I'm waiting for my A-1s to arrive, I had a talk to Brad at Westside about making a sleeve to fit over the J tube so that I can heat some coolant and feed it into a heater core and fan system under the back seat, as usual to all my crazy schemes Brad said, yeah not a problem.
I spent an afternoon the other day looking at water heater cores and fan assemblies at wreckers, everything I looked at is so huge, I will look again in few days, does anybody have any suggestions for car models I could try?
Steve
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
Hi Steve,
I've been searching too, very few factory heatercore enclosures a real small even in little hatches
I've almost got mine finished, a festiva heatercore in a homemade box.
Speedyair spares make some fairly compact heatercore units
Dimensions approx Width 200mm X Depth 210mm X Height 125mm
Dimensions approx Width 255mm X Depth 210mm X Height 110mm
I've been searching too, very few factory heatercore enclosures a real small even in little hatches
I've almost got mine finished, a festiva heatercore in a homemade box.
Speedyair spares make some fairly compact heatercore units
Dimensions approx Width 200mm X Depth 210mm X Height 125mm
Dimensions approx Width 255mm X Depth 210mm X Height 110mm
matberry Moderator Go hard or go home
8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
Steve, I have a core that is quite compact but better still, very self contained. It includes fan and flaps for control of airflow and is from an Isusu or Mitsi truck cab, around mid 90's I think. I'll try and take a pic if you want, but I think you should go the air route, otherwise your increasing complication, weight and current drain going the H2O route.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
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Joel, I have my eye on one at the moment from a Nissan, it looks the goods and is cheap.
I had a Coaster bus one in my yellow bug, it only had a low speed fan in it, worked great. The Speedyair ones look great, but they cost a bit, my local air con guy can get the same stuff that they sell.
Matt, what ever OEM unit I get I will cut it down to the minimum to save weight, just need a box, fan and two outlets to hook up the the heater channels.
Steve
Joel, I have my eye on one at the moment from a Nissan, it looks the goods and is cheap.
I had a Coaster bus one in my yellow bug, it only had a low speed fan in it, worked great. The Speedyair ones look great, but they cost a bit, my local air con guy can get the same stuff that they sell.
Matt, what ever OEM unit I get I will cut it down to the minimum to save weight, just need a box, fan and two outlets to hook up the the heater channels.
Steve
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
One of the Toyota heater units that I used in my yellow bug just came up on eBay.
Steve
One of the Toyota heater units that I used in my yellow bug just came up on eBay.
Steve
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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if you need heater cores use computer radiators.
Great as they are high pressure tested, designed for maximum heat transfer and use BSP 1/4" threads for the fittings.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=207_160_297_922
Great as they are high pressure tested, designed for maximum heat transfer and use BSP 1/4" threads for the fittings.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=207_160_297_922
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
How cute are they?vlad01 wrote:if you need heater cores use computer radiators.
Great as they are high pressure tested, designed for maximum heat transfer and use BSP 1/4" threads for the fittings.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=207_160_297_922
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
ah? yeah. computers have far advanced cooling technologys than cars do but their roots stated from the automotive cooling systems.
heck you can even buy liquid metal heat sinks for cpus. Na K alloy 👍
All my PCs are water cooled, been doing it for years. I apply principals from both computer to car and vise versa
Quote my sig from evga forums.
"my computers are liquid cooled while my cars are air cooled"
Also an awesome application of these rads that you could use them in an air to water intercooler rad as they dissipate heater far better than auto rads therefore taking up less space. the 560mm X 140mm rad would be great for A to W intercooler. you can series or parallel them too.
heck you can even buy liquid metal heat sinks for cpus. Na K alloy 👍
All my PCs are water cooled, been doing it for years. I apply principals from both computer to car and vise versa
Quote my sig from evga forums.
"my computers are liquid cooled while my cars are air cooled"
Also an awesome application of these rads that you could use them in an air to water intercooler rad as they dissipate heater far better than auto rads therefore taking up less space. the 560mm X 140mm rad would be great for A to W intercooler. you can series or parallel them too.
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
matberry Moderator Go hard or go home
8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
Very cool...excuse the pun. lol
Did notice this one with it's own pump, 12 v dc too.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_297_922&products_id=13305
Temp range only to 60* may be an issue???
Did notice this one with it's own pump, 12 v dc too.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_297_922&products_id=13305
Temp range only to 60* may be an issue???
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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well obviously you would use the swiftech with the built in pump. pump is way to slow GPM.
I know that the manufactures of that pump make a high temp version.
here we go.
http://lainginc.itt.com/
I know that the manufactures of that pump make a high temp version.
here we go.
http://lainginc.itt.com/
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
mactaylor Custom Title Time!
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how good are those rads! great for my water to air ic.
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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yeah they are getting better every few months. you know what the it industry is like. upgrade every 5 min is a must.
I was just thinking about the heat source as mentioned before, water exhaust heat exchanger. wont that prove to be a problem when the heater is not in use?!?!
the exhaust is like 400oC to peak of 1000oC. don't get me wrong, but wont containing infinitely rising temps and pressures be a problem especially if the heater in not in use?
we don't want to see a mythbusters hot water heater unit in our VWs. I suggest using a oil to water heat exchangers. this would work better than the oil cooler as heater because the oil lines are shorter and less restrictive and also water holds heat for a long time.
so once warmed up the heat will be more consistent.
I was just thinking about the heat source as mentioned before, water exhaust heat exchanger. wont that prove to be a problem when the heater is not in use?!?!
the exhaust is like 400oC to peak of 1000oC. don't get me wrong, but wont containing infinitely rising temps and pressures be a problem especially if the heater in not in use?
we don't want to see a mythbusters hot water heater unit in our VWs. I suggest using a oil to water heat exchangers. this would work better than the oil cooler as heater because the oil lines are shorter and less restrictive and also water holds heat for a long time.
so once warmed up the heat will be more consistent.
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
I'm going to incorporate a radiator cap in the system, if it gets too hot = too much pressure it will release the pressure.
If it really becomes an issue I could remove the heater from the J pipe for summer.
Steve
I'm going to incorporate a radiator cap in the system, if it gets too hot = too much pressure it will release the pressure.
If it really becomes an issue I could remove the heater from the J pipe for summer.
Steve
matberry Moderator Go hard or go home
8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
This I believe to be the biggest issue, will be interesting to see what happens.vlad01 wrote:I was just thinking about the heat source as mentioned before, water exhaust heat exchanger. wont that prove to be a problem when the heater is not in use?!?!
the exhaust is like 400oC to peak of 1000oC. don't get me wrong, but wont containing infinitely rising temps and pressures be a problem especially if the heater in not in use?
You know Steve, you could always have two bags of concrete and ......harden the f--k up.😂😂
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
Maybe just not drive the bug for the year, then get the subi conversion going.... 🙂
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
make a custom heater box is what I am going to do one day for my notch project. , oil cooler heater or water cooled heads?
heck you could even have a computer rad in the under tin absorbing heat from the waste air coming out underneath then doing the reverse to heat the cabin.
lots of different ways 😵💫
heck you could even have a computer rad in the under tin absorbing heat from the waste air coming out underneath then doing the reverse to heat the cabin.
lots of different ways 😵💫
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
Well I won a heater unit from a Nissan 180 sx on Ebay, $20.50 last of the big spenders.
It looks like it will do the job, I can either use the heater core fitted in it or the air con evaporator as the heater core.
Thinking about doing the trailer queen thing for Warwick with the bug, my sons Skyline has great heaters, then we wont have to harden up or pray to the protector of transaxles.
Steve
the Nissan heater
Well I won a heater unit from a Nissan 180 sx on Ebay, $20.50 last of the big spenders.
It looks like it will do the job, I can either use the heater core fitted in it or the air con evaporator as the heater core.
Thinking about doing the trailer queen thing for Warwick with the bug, my sons Skyline has great heaters, then we wont have to harden up or pray to the protector of transaxles.
Steve
the Nissan heater
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
Fitted the A-1 headers, so were now out in the cold. I'm still working on the heater setup, just collecting parts. I will keep you all posted.
Steve
Fitted the A-1 headers, so were now out in the cold. I'm still working on the heater setup, just collecting parts. I will keep you all posted.
Steve
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
I've been working on the heater issue tonight, Valla is getting closer.
I bought a heater unit from a Nissan on eBay, it was huge, I've managed to cut off all the bits I don't need so its small enough to fit under the tray I've made up to replace the back seat.
I'm incorporating a header tank with a radiator cap so it doesn't go nuclear if too much pressure builds up in the system.
I've made up the heat exchanger to bolt onto the headers, Westi is welding it up now.
Steve
I've been working on the heater issue tonight, Valla is getting closer.
I bought a heater unit from a Nissan on eBay, it was huge, I've managed to cut off all the bits I don't need so its small enough to fit under the tray I've made up to replace the back seat.
I'm incorporating a header tank with a radiator cap so it doesn't go nuclear if too much pressure builds up in the system.
I've made up the heat exchanger to bolt onto the headers, Westi is welding it up now.
Steve
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