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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#810257
hey guys, 66deluxe in particular.. i had a talk to kevin today and he has a type 4 2.4 litre with a mild cam, 103mm bores, the largest valves possible (thats what he told me) and its balanced.. it also has a high compression ratio that is the largest you could go without being unreliable, anyway him and his son built it about 10 years ago but his son lost interest in the vw seen for the muscle, now its not assembled but its all there how much do you think this is all worth, they said they spent 6 grand on it back then but they tried to sell it a year ago for 4grand but had no bites, if i put an offer for 3000 maybe? well i would have to save it all up
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66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#810336
The 2.4 would have cost 6K 10 years ago, paying 4k for it a year ago for all the parts is still a bargain, you could offer 3 if youlike. Ask him what exact heads they are and what cam it is.
This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.

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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#810350
66deluxe wrote:The 2.4 would have cost 6K 10 years ago, paying 4k for it a year ago for all the parts is still a bargain, you could offer 3 if youlike. Ask him what exact heads they are and what cam it is.
i just went over there to talk about the 2.4 and some other stuff and it has MASSIVE stainless steel valves on it, im not sure of the size but i will verify the size once i verify that i am actually buying it, found out some other stuff aswell. it has racing forged pistons aswell! talk about a opportunity, he says his son will probablyy want something close to 4 thousand but i ges we could nudge that down a little, all i can say is that all the work has been done and it was done by a trained mechanic and machine shop person

i have just arranged to buy 2 fiberglass front fenders from Barry Lord.. they look sweet and will save me heaps of time on body work. also later in the project i will buy a back set so that if i have a prang its not with original steel
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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#816061
ok so here goes.. last few months have been slow, i have saved to buy some more parts. bought some front fiberglass fenders from barry lord (perfect 56 moulds) and im soon going to be buying the rear ones.

many other small parts aswell. here is what i have done:

Cut the old H apron out because it was stuffed.

Cut alot of rust out near the rear right bumper bracket.

paint type 4 valve covers with VHT WRINKLE PAINT.. waiting for results in the morn

overhauled the pedal cluster

overhauled the wiper motor assembly with near armatures, and blades

removed bolts from body in prep for body off pan restoration,

gathered many parts for my 36hp build
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MAT792 Commited Dubber

60 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#816084
looks great mate! i just picked myself up a 65 and plan to restore her too!
their seems to be lots of young people like us (im 18) doing up bugs now!
look forward to seeing more progress
Matt

AJPerkins Commited Dubber

54 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#816086
Mate you are doing a seriously awesome job! I can't wait to see how your build comes along.

AzzA_teu Casual Dubber

44 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#816092
Terrific work mate.
I'm jealous. Wish I had that much room to work on cars, and wish I had a nice starting point like you do with the oval.
Keep up the good work!

DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#817880
ok so here goes, fuel tank etch primered, filler primer then top black coat!.. access holes paint same method, hand brake, steering wheel tube, indicator stalk.. etch primered..


$87.00 later i finally tracked down a RHD rear veiw mirror for my oval.. it is in pretty good shape... some of the chrome is flaking but i cant really do anything about it 😢

i had a WW sun visor in my parts stash whcih i can use 😎

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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#820915
hey guys, i have been indulging in restoring the easy stuff..

going to be welding the NEW (klokerholm one was incorrect) heater channel in in about 3 weeks time aswell as the right side rear qaurter panel.. and a few spot holes that need welding up.

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Camo Custom Title Time!

1,936 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·

#820930
I like what I see in this last photo at about the 4pm position - A timing wheel mmmmm.

Keep up the good work, Kev.
I thought rebuilding a VW would be cheap - Shit I was wrong, just don't let the wife know !!!!

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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#820944
Camo wrote:I like what I see in this last photo at about the 4pm position - A timing wheel mmmmm.

Keep up the good work, Kev.
thanks, yeah me and dad are trying to pioneer the upright type 4 fuel injected engines around our region haha yeah, glad to have you here man, your 61 looks the goods, love the colour 👍
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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#822286
hey guys! me and my dad bought this cigweld transmig 175i

buy once cry once.
the idea is to for me to become a metal work guru and eventually fix both cars, this 56 and our 1967 karmann ghia 🤓


awesome, i have wanted to buy a welder for a long time and we have plenty of uses for it, Thanks dad!

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vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#822299
Very good.
The wrinkle paint is a cracker!! Nice job on the fuel tank also.
Keep it going

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#822386
Good work there Blair.Wish I had started something like you are doing at your age-guess when I was your age,there wasn't a lot of stuff around.I have a 2.7 fuel injected Type 4 in an Oval and it's awesome to drive.That motor you are looking at is a bargain.I have put all the good stuff into my engine-C/W forged crank,good heads with big valves,forged pistons etc,so I have a bit of an idea of what it would cost for all the bits your friend has bought.Don't hesitate,grab it.You were very lucky finding an Oval in such good condition.If you have any questions about squeezing a Type 4 into an Oval,always happy to help.You will need to modify your fuel tank if you are going with fuel injection.

DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#822456
hey, thanks for the comment..

yeah my dad has told me i should focus a bit more on the body work (hence the welder) so i am aiming to get it paint some time soon, so i wont have the money to save for that type 4.. on another note, when you say modify the fuel tank you mean making a swirl box? correct?, well i know someone has asked this somewhere but couldnt you just make like a large diameter flat cylinder, with a fuel inlet (from the tank) a line going to the efi inlet and a line coming from the efi outlet?
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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#822466
No I haven't bothered with that stuff-just thread the original centre fitting 1/4 BSP for a 10mm barbed fitting and you will need a return line back into the tank somewhere from your fuel pressure regulator.For this I made a fitting with a 1/4 bsp female thread-and silver soldered it to the bottom of the tank-about 150mm away from the centre fitting,and to the passenger side.I silver soldered a 10mm diameter piece of pipe into a barbed fitting(threaded end) for the centre suction fitting that protrudes into the tank about 40mm,just so you don't suck any shit off the bottom.EFI is a big ,expensive step,but very user friendly.My car doesn't get started sometimes for a couple of months,but it fires instantly and idles smooth straight away and can be driven cold with out any backfiring or spluttering.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#822476
I have also done a EFI setup that is very easy.
Similar to NB, 10mm out of tank gravity feeding through a strainer (not filter) into a small catch tank mounted on outside of front passenger firewall. From there it goes into a bosch 930 fuel pump, through a filter and into the engine. From the engine the fuel is then plumbed back into the fuel tank. I have also vented the catch can into the fuel tank incase of any airlocks. A good thing to note is that you should make your tank breath a little better than the factory screw on lid. You can look at my old build thread to see how I did this.
Good Luck,
T54
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there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

lou0060 Wolfsburg Wizard

568 posts · joined Dec 2010 ·

#822510
good to see you went for the CIG mig, good unit for what you are planning. Not sure how much experience you or your dad have with welding but just in case better to have it said than not, I would not mig the fuel tank or even braze it without a very thorough wash out with soapy water. In fact I know guys who won't weld fuel tanks unless they are full of soapy water. petrol fumes can cause huge explosions so beware....

if you google mig welding there are some great youtube vids on the how to and little tricks, but as most things practice makes perfect.... good luck and keep up the good work......
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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#830822
WELLL

i forked out the money to get a new rear qaurter panel and H apron.. DONT ASK ME HOW MUcH THESE BAUTIES COST!

note: i got the H apron without the exhhaust cutouts, (pre 55) because i thought it would be different and i dont need them anyway

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DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#830841
Dasdubber wrote:Looks great mate, is the rear apron from Autocraft?
Cheers
Al
hi alan, they are from Tomasz at "kdf services"

there are three options either autokrft (sloppy mouldings but cheap)

Kdf services (good/very good moulding and average price)

wolf parts (very very expensive and from what i have seen about as good as wat i bought)


Thanks!
Blair
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Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus

5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#830845
Thanks for the details mate, I have to do an apron on my 54 and haven't been overly excited about what panels have been available to date. Good to hear you were happy.
Cheers
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vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#830863
Very nice. How do you find kdf services?