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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#847529
Hi ive just recently changed my baja from swing axle to irs. I have been driving it for 6 weeks now and 3 of the cv boots have split. Im just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and if theres away from preventing this. I filled boots with grease dont no if this would cause it to split?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#847539
Were they new? If they were the answer is fit German boots, if there weren't new, the answer is fit German boots.... 🙂
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grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#847544
matberry wrote:Were they new? If they were the answer is fit German boots, if there weren't new, the answer is fit German boots.... 🙂
Like the old Arnotts ad "There is no substitute for quality"

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#847564
you dont fill the boot with grease 🤪 you put grease in the cv joint & balls then put the boot on. 😊and if the car is raised the angle of the shafts maybe be to much.??
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#847592
ancientbugger wrote:Hi i've just recently changed my baja from swing axle to irs.
I have been driving it for 6 weeks now and 3 of the cv boots have split.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and if there is a way from preventing this. I filled boots with grease don't know if this would cause it to split?
Hi
Firstly You are not supposed to fill the boots with grease...
ONLY the CV Joints .... with lithium based MOLY grease
but I do put a lot of grease in mine.. lol

I found rubber boots do crack... maybe NOS ???
and after a short period of time..
but I have found the colored boots are made from polyuethane which is much better than rubber...
excellent stuff...
had the same experience with a magna years ago...

cheers

LEE

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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#847730
thanks for replies.

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895 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·

#847735
Does noone else really like the idea of the toyota boot, souns like a really cheap self servicable item that should last a long time. I wonder if the smaller section would fit type 1 CVs? I'l post and see what comes.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#847750
I have German Type 1 boots or German Wurth branded '2 sizes fits all' generic fit any car cv boots. Give me a call if you want any Barry.
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#847766
Hi Matt, this was Mick using my login!!! Yes he will get some from you and he'll probably need 4 so if you could let us know how much then he can get the cash out and we'll pop around Friday if that's OK, cheers.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#847767
No probs
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#847908
Barry, can't find your # (new phone)

GKN/Lobro German og type cv boot $20; or kit with bolts and clips for $25 ea.
Wurth generic boot, very stretchy material but this is the rubber boot only -$22 ea
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#847987
Mat would know a good CV Boot as He has had experience with them..

and probably with inferior ones too, lol

I have a New CV joint boot still in its box I bought years ago..

and You can cut it to suit many size axles and cv joint sizes..
Don't know if it will fit VWs.. lol

must have bought it for a Mitsubishi..lol
looks good quality..

NOS rubber boots aren't probably a good idea.. lol
as they are already old when You buy them... lol

LEE
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#860268
Well the new ones have now split as well so Mick is looking for new ideas🙁

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#860276
Doh !!!

They were the Lobro boots IIRC

I'll investigate a credit and a swap to the Wurth boots, the rubber looked very nice. but not sure re; size.
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

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#860312
Here is a pic of a repco generic cv joint boot

fits just about anything

came with stainless steel bands to hold on

large high quality zip ties will also work

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?action=attachment&tid=91173&pid=860312&aid=89372

LEE

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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#860647
Matt I checked this afternoon and they were the Wurth ones. I tend to believe the problem lies with the fact that Mick has the suspension raised so much that the boots are always at an acute angle but he's never going to listen to me😠

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#861434
Hey Lee, where'd you get the coloured boots from?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#861464
Don't go there, was my experience with the coloured boots. Anyone else?
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chillihilli Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 ·

#861588
Did you put a hose clamp on the driveshaft side? I'm told this can make boots split and the "keep your old vw alive " book says to put a hoseclamp on them. Original vw driveshafts also had a clamp on them.
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#861672
No clamp onto the driveshaft just to the cv but all boots have split at both gearbox and wheel!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#861693
Has he notched the spring plates or ground down the lower stops for more down travel? May be an axle length/angle issue. If at a high angle, did he pull the inners along towards the centre of the axle? Sometimes if at extreme angles the axle spline will rub on the inner ribs of the boot. Check how they split.
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#861722
ancientbugger wrote:Hey Lee,
where'd you get the coloured boots from?
Hi

I found them on ebay

My new rubber ones lasted a very short time
and both cracked badly...

I changed them before they split right thru..
not sure where You can get the colored polypropylene boots
but its much stronger than rubber...

can't say I've seen any for sale in Australia..

I've never used clamps on the VW axles , but I used to use large thick cable ties on My Mitsubishis..

Lee

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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

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#861907
Matt no the springplates aren't notched and the boots appear to be split around the middle of their length. They're not pulled or stressed in any way as far as I could see

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#861910
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#864701
Hi its mick speaking. recently bought new carb for my baja and its running the best it eva has since ive had it. Dying to go offroad but all 4 cv boots are practically split in half now so i cant go offroad. I havnt done any offroading with these cv boots so i havnt been rough with them. If anyone has any good ideas let me know thanks. I was wondering if theres special boots for those super high racing dune buggies. Just trying to think of ideas.

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#864707
matberry wrote:Don't go there, was my experience with the coloured boots. Anyone else?
these are polypropylene so they are super tough...

I don't think these will crack at all...
polypropylene is the BEST... whatever color..

I'll have to keep looking for others.. now..

LEE

PS: most colored parts like colored distributor caps are rubbish
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#864710
found a company called cvjointaust@yahoo.com.au
in Auburn Sydney

sell Beetle CV Joint boots for $12

also sell ball joint and tie rod end boots

12 months warranty.. 20,000 klms..

post or pick up

LEE

Boots aren't colored...
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