CSP Python vs Vintage Speed

Craig S · 2012-04-03T07:13:01+00:00

Hi All, I'm in the process of deciding what exhaust system to use on the 1916 going in the back of the Beetle. I'm not bothered about heater boxes. Basically I'm of the mind to do it once and do it properly, so that brings it down to two systems: * CSP Python * Vintage Speed I know that via DAS Resto Parts the CSP system will cost about $1,500 including J Pipes, and I need to call VVDS for a price on the Vintage Speed, so that might help me make my decision, but I was wondering what people's experiences were. I've seen quite a bit on here recently about the Vintage Speed kit, and everyone seems to think they're great, but I'm wondering if anyone has feedback on the Python? Volksworld did a comparison late last year on exhausts, and the page relating to them is below: The test was done on a 2332cc engine with 48mm Dell'Ortos and 1:4 ratio rockers that had previously dynoed 150hp. Their summary was: "Vintage Speed: It is impossible to fault the quality of this system, but it is very expensive and was only able to match the power of the more budget offerings. But if you want a stock look for a big motor, this is a good option. In the end, though, the numbers don't lie - CSP Python made more power than all the other exhausts, boasts excellent build quality and has a price between the top and bottom ends of the market" If I really want, the CSP will also let me use heaters. So what do people think?? Thanks

SunshineKarmann Casual Dubber

34 posts · joined Dec 2008 · 21 Dec 2012, 1:13 pm

#936521

Time to drag this thread out of the woods. Recently purchased a 1.5 inch CSP Python system from CIP1. Landed at my door 4 days from order date for a total price of $1120, including matching J pipes. Outstanding price and delivery, mind you this was on sale due to their current Christmas special.

The primary reason for choosing the python was based on performance, sound and the ability to achieve a nice snug fit with the muffler mounted at an angle. Love the tuckaway look as well.

tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 · 21 Dec 2012, 1:45 pm

#936523

Would love to hear it. Easy fit or did you have to do some mods?

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SunshineKarmann Casual Dubber

34 posts · joined Dec 2008 · 21 Dec 2012, 9:56 pm

#936561

It is currently wrapped and under the Christmas tree! It never ceases to amaze me how my wife can find exactly what I wished for! 😵‍💫 Will let you know how it fits up once done. Give me a week, need time to fit up the 1904 and Rancho as well. Got heaps of wiring, plumbing and plenty of cursing to come.

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 22 Dec 2012, 9:46 am

#936594

I have a VS on my KG, best $500 odd bucks i have spent, quality, sound etc all 100% . Still uses heater boxes and fitment u could have done with your eyes shut.

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splitbus Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 22 Dec 2012, 1:29 pm

#936603

Vintage speed exhaust system with headers $680 delivered to my door sounds great works a treat

Cheers, Mike
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splitbus Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 22 Dec 2012, 1:56 pm

#936604

Python

VS

Cheers, Mike
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zayus Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 May 2016, 7:10 pm

#1026020

Found this old post...

I have the CSP exhaust system and the heater boxes - 42 mm.

Delivered way back in February 2010, and still in the box.

Hopefully, on the car, soon.

Cost:
- Python exhaust: $1228.00
- heater boxes: $740.62
- paid NO duty
- phew!
- still, too f#@!ing expensive!

Will have pictures by Spring, this year.

Does anyone have pictures of their bug with a CSP?

Do the CSP heater boxes work with heads like, DRD L5s (40x35.5)? aircooled.net reads, no heater boxes.

Bryce

sander288 "Bolt-on Master"

1,404 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 6 May 2016, 8:18 pm

#1026021

Hi Zayus,

In the VW tech/FAQ section there is this thread, with a dropbox full of images of VW's with common/popular exhausts

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=106458

With reference to the DRD heads and ACN saying not to use heater boxes, that is if using stock heater boxes with the heavy internal fins etc... if the heater boxes you've bought from CSP are their ones with the LARGER internal tubes you'll be fine. That is why CSP made them, so ze germans don't need to freeze their pretzels in winter whilst running a hopped engine.

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zayus Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 May 2016, 9:23 pm

#1026024

Hey Sander,

Thanks for the info.

RE: the CSP heater boxes, I think, that's why I bought them.

I really need to get the car on the road!

Zayus

zayus Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 May 2016, 9:24 pm

#1026025

CSP heater boxes.

Well made, and light compared to factory heater boxes.

Gotta love ze Germans!

melbdubguy Learner Dubber

1 post · joined Nov 2010 · 19 Jan 2017, 10:01 pm

#1033177

Hello all, thought I might rekindle this post and find out how the VS systems have held up after so many years. I am in the market at the moment so any comments welcomed

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 20 Jan 2017, 7:33 am

#1033183

I am in the market at the moment so any comments welcomed

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