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 boof2332
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| posted on June 9th, 2005 at 11:35 PM |
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Shortening suby sump...
Due to the hole in the sump from a wheelie in 2nd, I decided to shorten it while I had it off. Outback motosports? sell a sump that just has 1.5
inches cut off the bottom and a plate welded on. The sump was big enough that even with the 1.5 inches gone, the sump still can hold the recommended
amount of oil(so they say)
I started with that intention and ended up with this.....
Please excuse the phone pics again.....I will take some better ones later.
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| posted on June 9th, 2005 at 11:37 PM |
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I have cut about an inch out of the middle and rejoined them, like a chopped bug(next project)
Ignore the shadow under the base, you can see the original drain plug, which stays the same...
[Edited on 9/6/2005 by boof2332]
[Edited on 9/6/2005 by boof2332]
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boof2332
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| posted on June 9th, 2005 at 11:49 PM |
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The original bottom baffle in the sump gets cut out when it is shortened, athough it can be gound out and rewelded back at any chosen height.
The base section was cut with the sloping side being 2cm longer than the others. This protruding side could be bent horizontal, then covering the gap
that would be left due to the bottom piece being significantly shorter after the cutting.(looks like a bullnose in the first pic)
What do you think?
Matt
[Edited on 9/6/2005 by boof2332]
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| posted on June 10th, 2005 at 02:15 AM |
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Hi Matt,
it is not important how it looks, it got to work. Just make sure it is leakfree before you put it back under the engine.
I used gasoline to check mine.
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| posted on June 10th, 2005 at 07:08 AM |
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How did it go?
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| posted on June 10th, 2005 at 11:23 AM |
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also make sure you mod your picup to suit.
Pay attention to the dip stick tube as it is brazed in and if you weld near it will leak if you don't rebraze it.
How much shorter did it end up ?
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| posted on June 10th, 2005 at 11:41 AM |
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The pickup will be braised as suggested, it will be too fiddly to weld. The two halves are still seperate, I just finished filing the surfaces and
sitting them together for the photo. They will be tig welded later today. It will end up being about 1.5 inches shorter.
Matt
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| posted on June 10th, 2005 at 10:00 PM |
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cor makes 85 mm shorter ones
[size=4] Terry - Custom Off RoadComponents[/size]
28 Hayward Street, Stafford QLD 4053
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| posted on June 11th, 2005 at 12:05 AM |
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Thats pretty short, I guess you need crazy clearance off road.For on the street, all you need is 40mm shorter. Its then inline with the oil filter and
headers.
I was looking at the options of buying one for about $450 on exchange, although I wanted the car back on the road tomorrow and turn around on an
exchange would have to be atleast a week. Figured I'd give it a go myself....if its wrecked, then get a second hand one, if it works....The car will
be running in the morning.
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shortened sump
why not with well cooling 5 cm shortened aluminium cast sump?
I know, most of you are aiming to do low budget conversions, but how many hours do you spend with such an oilsump?
How much capacity do you give up, by simply shortening the original sump. Mine´s capacity is 4,25 litres and I can tell you that it is very stabile
and very well cooling the engine. You can easily lift the car by putting the lifter under the sump. Besides it´s looking more like a VW-related
engine when you look from underneath. Especially for buggies where you can see the whole oilpan it´s to me a little ugly to have such a reworked
Subi-melone.
The only problem is, that freight to AUS is about 50 Euro for one sump and about 85 Euro for a package of upto three sumps. But is this really a
problem?
Cheers Martin http://www.bugat5speed.de
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| posted on June 14th, 2005 at 05:40 PM |
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Martin, I think yours looks great, and will consider one in the future, I just wanted the car back on the road as quick as possible. Mine still holds
normal capacity. I also have welded a 3mm skid plate on the bottom of mine, as they are not the thickest metal to start with.
Matt
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| posted on June 22nd, 2005 at 05:29 AM |
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Matt,
Have you got some pics of your new shortened sump fitted?
Rich
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| posted on June 22nd, 2005 at 09:03 PM |
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I will take a pic tomorrow...it is just below the cast headers.
Matt
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| posted on August 2nd, 2005 at 10:39 AM |
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Still like to see a pic Matt
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| posted on August 3rd, 2005 at 08:08 AM |
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Here is one of my famous phone pics...I know I know, I get a new phone in a week with a megapixle camera.
Matt
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| posted on August 31st, 2006 at 10:39 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by bugat5speed
why not with well cooling 5 cm shortened aluminium cast sump?
I know, most of you are aiming to do low budget conversions, but how many hours do you spend with such an oilsump?
How much capacity do you give up, by simply shortening the original sump. Mine´s capacity is 4,25 litres and I can tell you that it is very stabile
and very well cooling the engine. You can easily lift the car by putting the lifter under the sump. Besides it´s looking more like a VW-related
engine when you look from underneath. Especially for buggies where you can see the whole oilpan it´s to me a little ugly to have such a reworked
Subi-melone.
The only problem is, that freight to AUS is about 50 Euro for one sump and about 85 Euro for a package of upto three sumps. But is this really a
problem?
Cheers Martin http://www.bugat5speed.de
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Martin, do you have some pictures of your cast sumps? And a price?
Cheers, Axel.
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| posted on August 31st, 2006 at 11:03 AM |
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http://www.bugat5speed.de/cms/content/view/30/53/
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"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."
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| posted on September 1st, 2006 at 12:25 AM |
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I have to find the picture of the new one, althouh this is essentially what ours are like, although the new ones have a slight bootleg look and have
profile cut top plates. They are about 45mm shorter and hold about the same as stock due to the slight flare and straight sides.
Matt
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/299519.jpg
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| posted on September 1st, 2006 at 02:12 AM |
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Fwooarr, these are sexy units. Great engineering idea being two piece. Price is 275 euro (about 460AUD). As Martin says its about 50 euro postage
(85AUD).
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 10:45 AM |
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Who makes these ones ? The picture was from the Manx Club site but had no details ?
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 12:52 PM |
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custom offroad in brisbane. warning though, they are exy but then I spose you get what you pay for.
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 01:08 PM |
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were the cast ones any good , I need 7 of them
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 01:17 PM |
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NICE WORK MATT! :thumb
I've a bugat5speed cast one that never made it onto my car....Guess one day it might.
Didn't think the casting was fantastic, but that's only my opinion.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=43283&page=2#pid419282
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 02:03 PM |
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custom offroad in brisbane. warning though, they are exy but then I spose you get what you pay for.
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$550 with modified pickup ... 85mm shorter ..
Is anyone else going that short ?
Anyone heard of any issues with them ?
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| posted on September 5th, 2006 at 03:05 PM |
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There's been a few different versions of them. The current COR shortened sumps are laser cut steel, folded and TIG welded to shape. Quite a lot of
labour involved to make them, hence the price.
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| posted on September 9th, 2006 at 12:09 AM |
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i know my one from custom DOES NOT leak at all
very short very strong
well worth the price
terry
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| posted on September 9th, 2006 at 12:31 AM |
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