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posted on March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 PM
My 63 Beetle Resto


Let me introduce me and "Bertie". Bertie was given to me by a mate as a project car. He had stored it at a mates property for the last 7 years in the hope of doing it up. Well the usual girlfriend/marriage/kids/life thing got in the way and he finally gave up on the idea of fixing him up so offered him to me free but with to wishes. One the car is to be tastefully done up (no rat rod or chop chop :fakesniff:) and be back on the road by Berts 50th birthday in 3 years time.

I will start the restoration of him over Easter. I plan to do a full body off, ground up restoration and return him back to better than his former glory. I am still yet to finalize the over plan and design but it will definitely be a "California" style beetle and it will be slammed low low low! I am in no rush and fully expect this to take at least 2 years to complete.

I have absolutely none, zero, zip experience with VW's. Have restored and customised a few cars now but more the Holden elk (am i allowed to say that without getting flamed?:ninja:) I have always wanted a VW and I still can believe how excited I actually am to be doing this resto. Anyway I hope to get to know you guys as this forum seems pretty friendly and helpful.

Anyway I hope you get something out of this guys? And I get some of your wisedom and knowledge to help me complete this wonderful car.

Photo's can be found here: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=43383&hl= 

Sorry but I am a tech tard haven't worked out the photo thing yet :crazy:


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posted on March 29th, 2010 at 10:39 PM



http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/albums/1268789860/med_gallery_9761_624_3280.jpg
This is where and how I found him.


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This is the kind bloke that donated his ex-car to the project



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posted on March 29th, 2010 at 10:46 PM



http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/albums/1268789860/med_gallery_9761_624_13161.jpg
Interior is in really good nick considering age and the way it has been stored.


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Soooo tempted to rat this but I made a promise :grind:


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Steering wheel is cracked I am hoping it can be restored?


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posted on March 30th, 2010 at 08:45 AM



Rat it!!!!!! or atlease leave the paint to last and drive it round for a while :tu:
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posted on March 30th, 2010 at 08:48 AM



Hi Chappo and welcome aboard. I was nearly in the same position as you. I had many a car, but never a VW and had liked them for over 20 years. Well the only difference is that I had to pay for mine (lucky you) and I have free range of what I do.

Just a point, you stated you have 3 years and hope to do it in 2 so obviously a long term project. When I started mine I hoped to have it ready in 6 months, but plans changed and here I am over 2 years later and still dont even have paint on it :fakesniff: Just be mindful of the time frame, although I know 3 years sounds like a long time.

Good luck with the project and keep the photos coming. There are many that learn from this site and many that help on this site. So a big :tu: to all.

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posted on March 30th, 2010 at 04:39 PM



Cheers Camo and Jr Dacks.

It sooo tempting to rat it as I really get that whole scene. I will however have play no doubt and drop the body when the pan is done for shytes and giggles.

Yes Camo I know these things can get away on you but I need to be strict to the deadline as well as I want to have some fun cruizin' ASAP.

Questions?

Where's the best part to start pulling it down? Planned on pulling out and cataloguing the interior which won't take long. Then where too? Windows, guards, bonnet and boot lids?

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posted on March 30th, 2010 at 08:58 PM



Just a quick reply. Take photos (digital ones preferably) and lots of them. Will help when the time comes to re-assemble and it could be 12 months or longer since you pulled it apart and the memory has gone.

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posted on March 30th, 2010 at 09:31 PM



nice project chappo, does it start and run?

best of luck with it and as Camo says photos photos photos!




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posted on March 31st, 2010 at 10:15 AM



Thanks Camo! Good advice now I know how to operate and uplaod photo's.

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nice project chappo, does it start and run?

best of luck with it and as Camo says photos photos photos!


Nickster to be honest I only hand cranked it around the other day and it did spin so I guess that is a good sign? I want to flush the tank and fuel lines, prolly new points and sparkies before giving it a go. Although I am told it's a replant 1200 and will want to upgrade it to be honest. I'll keep the 1200 and see if I can refurbish it for the learning more than anything.

I spent alot of last night reading thru the forum here and I think I have given myself a heavy dose of brain overload. So here's another question for the collective knowledge bank AVD forum members.

Any suggestions on a engine upgrade? Ok open question I know. Let me be more specific. I want a mototr that will:
1. Be reliable as a weekly/daily driver
2. Be able to be hotted up overtime as I know myself too well
3. Have enough grunt to make it a comfortable cruise on those occasions.
4. Not interested at this stage of going the foreign/exotic motor upgrade so WRX and alike are out.
5. Upgrade to a 12V system.

I am thinking about the 1643 upgrade but as I said earlier I am a complete noob with VW motors. And I guess they have the same pro's and con's like the old holden 186 vs 202 (red and blue). Sorry to refer to Holdens but that's where I cut my teeth.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. :)

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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 05:53 PM



I am at this stage with the 64 i have, its got a 1200 or 1300 not sure and too lazy to go measure to find out. But my 71 has got a 1600 in it with a header system and cannon and its got heaps of top end. Can easily keep up with the highway traffic. Lke will sit at 120 with ease.

Im sure it wont be long and joel will be on here, he knows alot and i mean alot about vws.
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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 07:25 PM



Thanks 71-Beetle you have confirmed what I suspected. You have a 64 as well? Wow! Mind you I can see how these's little critters get addictive. I spend most of my days day dreaming about all the mods I want to do.

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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 07:36 PM



I'm no expert and only new to the forum as well however my newly acquired 69 has a 1600 twin port motor which goes really well.

my plan is to add twin webbers, new manifold and extractors which I have been told will add quite a great deal of power.




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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 07:45 PM



As Josh already said above best bet is go straight for a 1600 twinport

they're by far the most common engine around and in stock form in a lighter early bug will get along quite nicely for a daily but they're also the best base to start modifying aswell

just a few simple bolt on mods like better carb/carbys, exhaust and ratio rockers can really wake them up

your best of mating it to a later gearbox though as the 1200 gearing will drive you nuts on the open road
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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 07:51 PM



You can see heaps of pics of the 64 here,

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=79672 
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posted on April 1st, 2010 at 08:49 PM



Best to start with a 1600 as they are like the 350 chev (you can buy heaps of hot up parts) if you want to make good HP you need to make it breath. putting twin carbs on a motor with std heads and cam is like putting $500 nike runners on a fat, asthmatic guy. Looks nice, but goes sh*t :smilegrin:



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posted on April 4th, 2010 at 03:50 PM
MORE PROGRESS


Ok a little progress today. How many friggin bolts are there????

Thanks fella's for all the advice. Whats the gearbox I should be looking at? Year/model?


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So a little progress but more to come tomorrow. Will keep you lads up to date as it happens. Would appreciate advice on the gearbox though?

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posted on April 4th, 2010 at 03:52 PM



Best uploading pics to photobucket cause we cant see those ones.
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Sorry fixed now :rolleyes:



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posted on April 4th, 2010 at 04:06 PM



I am not a big fan of pulling cars apart , I just fix what needs doing and get the car up and running.
Good luck with what you are doing.
I hope to see another vw back on the road soon.:tu:




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posted on April 4th, 2010 at 09:55 PM



good luck mate I am in the middle of building a 1960 beetle so I know how you feel
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Weeeee!!! Finally got a full day at it today. No kids to run around, no nagging wife to do odd jobs for to keep the peace, no work and sunshine all day. Absolutely stoked.

Ok well finally the pan is separated from the body and the motor is out. I think that there's 47 years of road gunk and funk under and all over this VW.

Still toying alot of ideas but I will concentrate on the chassis, suspension, wheels, tyres and brakes for the mean time.

I want to upgrade the front brakes to disc's. After many a discussion with different experts I feel that my partucular driving style (flatout and sideways :cool:) needs to have a decent set of front anchors to prevent Olde Chap Chap from being road kill.

I will lower it but not extreme as I want to enjoy driving this one and maybe a few VW get togethers. I will upgrade all the shockies and probably rebuild and repair all the suspension components. Any suggestion would be appreciated fella's.

Wheels well there's a can of worms. What to do? Thoughts are to keep the originals and widen up the rears to 205's. Pretty them up with a lick of paint. Simple and easy.

Chassis full resto and lick of POR15.

Anyway more photos of whats been achieved so far...

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie001.jpg

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie002.jpg

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie014.jpg

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http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie011.jpg

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie019.jpg

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http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie017.jpg

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posted on May 13th, 2010 at 05:29 PM



Well I am still forging ahead with the tear down and hoping to start the long process of rebuilding this coming weekend startin with the pan...

Anyhow here's some updated photo's

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie008.jpg

Stripping more gear like peddles etc..

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie004.jpg
Pan under the peddles is a little secondhand but still sound. Nuthin' a lick of paint won't fix, Right?

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie005.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie006.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie007.jpg

Motor mounted on my engine stand. Had to do a little bit of fabrication but I am pretty happy how it turned out..

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http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie010.jpg
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie011.jpg
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posted on May 13th, 2010 at 06:15 PM



Oh and I have been playing on that BugSelecta thingamy and have come up with this as a starting point...

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/FutureBertie.jpg




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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 04:51 PM



Dunno if anyone bothers with looking at this but hey i guess it keeps a record for me.

Ok attacked the pan today. Cut out dodgy and bodgy battery pan and replaced with new one. Fitting up the panel was a bit painful but it worked out in the end. Unfortunately my back isn't what it used to be so I'll have weld and grind a bit more than I used to.

Anyways here some photo's for those interested.

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie001-1.jpg
Marking out the chop. I had to take out more than I planned due to the existing dodginess.
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie002-1.jpg
This gives a better view of why I had to do this.
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie003-1.jpg
Same again
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie006-1.jpg
Old vs new
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie007-1.jpg
Gone, chopped and can't turn back now.
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie009-1.jpg
Mocking up the pan
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie011-1.jpg
More cutting and banging
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie012-1.jpg
I like this shot as it shows how far different new vs old is. A little love tap here and there and it came to the party. Be warner these panels are thinner than the originals.
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie014-1.jpg
Final clean up before welding
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie016-1.jpg
A few tacks down. God knows why I decided to TIG today. I was just too lazy to go down to the bottom shed and lug up the MIG.
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie017-1.jpg
Tacked in place
http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx156/lissatrent/Bertie%20Beetle/Bertie020-1.jpg
Welding it off.

Just need to shape up some infills for the rear of the replacement pan as I had to chop out a bit more than planned. Then a general tidy up and grind. I'll finish taking the rest of the suspension, gearbox, link pin off the pan and then a wire wheel. Hopefully some fresh paint not too far away.

Any thoughts/experience/reviews on POR15?


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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 04:55 PM



It's coming along nicely, I also like the rake of the car whats your time frame for having it finished?



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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 04:58 PM



Great stuff mate

As for POR15 i have heard / seen more bad stories than good

most where is doesnt set /go off properly and then need to be ground off

I would either
1) powder coat

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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 05:14 PM



Cheers Paulc

I am hoping to have it back on the streets this time next year. I am in no hurry and just want to do a decent job of it.

Yeah I like the rake on the image thingamy. Still trying to decide on suspension, brakes and driveline. So fricken many options with these beetles you start to get lost in it all. Actually I am a bit confused to be honest with where to go as I haven't ever driven a beetle :lol: Let alone a modified one so I really don't know what to expect.

Thanks Bizarre that was the reports I was getting outside of the forum so I'll stick to plan A and paint with PPG Chassis Black with an undercoat and rust converter.

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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 05:16 PM



I am no expert but one thing to consider is if you reassemble as standard then registration will be much easier otherwise you will need an Engineers certificate which will cost $$$$.

looking forward to watching your progress




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posted on May 29th, 2010 at 05:25 PM



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Originally posted by Chappo
Dunno if anyone bothers with looking at this but hey i guess it keeps a record for me.




People are always interested, even if they aren't posting comments. Especially when you include so many photos. :cool:

It helps keep those who are still building inspired, and makes everyone happy that another VW will be back on the road.

Keep the progress going and looking forward to seeing this one finished.

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Craig




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