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posted on March 26th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
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Hi all,

I'm a newbie buggy owner. I’m hoping you can answer a couple of questions that you can probably answer in a flash (and save me a lot of trial and error):
• Are the brakes (master cylinder, wheel cylinders and flexible lines) beetle or type II?
• I want to remove the roll bar, but that is currently a seat-belt mount for the lap sash. What was the original seatbelt set up – lap only?
• Some previous owner has replaced the front seats with high-back beetle seats. Does anyone have some original seats they don’t need?
• Lastly – would anyone have the optional rear seat they could let go?


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posted on March 26th, 2012 at 01:09 PM



Firstly we need the KO number and photos of your Country Buggy :D



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posted on March 26th, 2012 at 01:51 PM



Bullboy,
11 Cab is right, give him some photos fro the Gallery and let me have the KO details for the Register.

To answer your questions quickly
1. Master Cylinder is T2 (211611011U),Brake lines to T Piece are T1 (114611741) T Piece is T1 (113611755) and wheel cylnders are T2 (211611047B Rear) (214611069 Left front)
(214611070Right Front)
2,Original seat belts were lap only in black
3.Seats are like rocking horse shit to locate. Its better to find a 61 to 65 period T1 seat,cut and replace the top bar using a pipe bender and just weld these new tops in place. The back panel is single metal sheet. Find a template on another CB to get the correct sizing.
4.Original rear seats are like finding shit from a rocking horse that has severe constipation. I am still looking after 15 years.
Best would be to find a car with a seat end fabricate a new one. It will take years off your life.

Let me know if you need other detail. I have a literature pack that may assist including a repo spare parts manual, repo owners handbook and other stuff.
Would also be interested in the Chassis number and engine number as well so I update the Register.

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posted on March 26th, 2012 at 04:42 PM



Front brake hoses are (440mm M/F) Beetle 65-66, Bus 65-67 Part No 211-611-701. Presuming you have the correct front suspension & brakes of course. They only had lap belts. Can't wait to see it.
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posted on March 26th, 2012 at 08:28 PM



Thanks all for the replies. I don't have the KO on me but will let you know.

It hasn't seen the sun (or rain) for 20+ years and is very rust-free with only some minor dings. I'll be getting it mobile at easter and shoot some more photos then.

Anyone with leads on a rear seat template please let me know

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posted on March 27th, 2012 at 03:14 PM



Ahh, now we know which Country Buggy it is, KO 342.
It’s been discussed on this forum before of course, when it was for sale. See http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=94531&page=1#pid884183 
It has a beetle chassis, CBs had specially produced chassis without heater controls, and they used the Type 3 pedal assemblies. Looks like it has beetle running gear under it too so ignore my post about the brake line. Check the chassis number, 3rd number is the year in the 60s that the chassis was made. Steering wheel is original, and rare. Horn buttons and brake fluid reservoirs are even rarer.
Looks great, good luck
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posted on March 27th, 2012 at 03:24 PM



I was wondering what became of that one.

It was sitting in the shed on another macadamia farm not far from me since the mid 80s.
I asked what they were doing with it geez bout 10 years ago and they had no interest in selling it then, just letting the rats eat it away.

good to see it's finally in safe hands.
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posted on March 27th, 2012 at 07:24 PM



Yep, that's the one. Even has macadamia's in it to prove it!

I didn't get to inspect it before sale - which was always the big risk, but I'm really happy with the rust-free-ness of the body and it's general completeness. How did you know it was KO342? funny - I did look but couldn't remember. My daughter remembered it being 341!

The beetle chassis makes sense with the heater knob and no reduction boxes. Engine fan shroud doesn't have heater pipes so somethings been swapped.

Are there any other differences with the beetle chassis besides heater and pedal clusters? Are they the same shape, frame head? or would something have needed to be botched up to make it fit?

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posted on March 28th, 2012 at 08:05 AM



More pics are needed, SVP.
We're all big on photos here, so if you can, please snap off a couple dozen and post them.
Looks like you have a great CB for a starting point to do whatever you wish to it.
Congrats!
You are one of a very, very few to have the privilege to own one.
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posted on March 28th, 2012 at 10:39 AM



sure - will get plenty of pictures and VIN details etc in the coming weeks for the register and manx gallery.

Just thought on my previous post - obviously a LOT of things are different with running a beetle pan and running gear......what I meant to ask was is there anything missing from a floorpan/strength perspective.

Convertible beetles have additional strengthening put in under the pan to compensate for no roof - do CB's allow for this by the height of the sides?

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posted on April 1st, 2012 at 03:36 PM



Hey BB
11CAB said it was KO342 in the other thread. He seems to know these things, even when there isn’t a picture in the gallery. http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/Country-Buggies 
The chassis are almost exactly the same as a late 60s beetle except the couple of little things. The pedals are type 3 (perhaps all late beetles are?), the heater cable tubes and control aren’t there, the accelerator pedal hinge tab is a little lower (because there’s no floor coverings I presume), there are 2 threaded drain holes in the middle of the rear floors. Early 60s beetles had vertical front brake hose brackets, the CB has them extending out closer to the wheel, again, perhaps all late 60’s beetles do, I’m not sure.
All the other differences are bolt on. Support brackets from the front chassis bolts to the outer ends of the front beam bottom tube. Strengtheners welded to the front suspension snubbers are the only change to the front beam.
The front stubs and reduction hubs give them the width and ride height. The stub axles and king pin assemblies look like pre 54 Kombi but are CB only. Brakes are late 60’s Kombi. Gearbox is mid 60’s Kombi. Reduction hubs have the shock mounts cut off and adaptor brackets, with shock mounts, made to adapt them to the beetle swing plates, but in the vertical position.
Engine has a protector frame under the sump, wide fan housing with no heater tubes (these were on industrial engines too), an opposite hand Kombi like air cleaner that seems to be CB only, and a special set of exhausts. Also a crank handle pulley nut with a special hole in the rear tin with a flip up cover to push the crank handle through.
Almost all small parts are from some other VW and most are available. Not window, bonnet & boot rubbers or tail & blinker lights.
Getting all the part identified is half the fun of it.
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