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| posted on March 8th, 2004 at 07:57 PM |
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58 shell on what pan
what is the latest pan that will take a 58' bug shell? .. I will put belts in, but what other modes have to be made, what do I have to look out
for.. I want this to take a 1600+ ... (depends on funds)
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| posted on March 8th, 2004 at 07:59 PM |
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It will fit on a late 75 and 76 pan.
It wont fit on a strut front end pan. Although you could get one of these and weld a new bulk head onto it then it will fit.
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| posted on March 8th, 2004 at 08:19 PM |
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Dave what are the pros and cons with this conversion? Is it worth the effort? or is any balljoint pan the go? I am thinking IRS and had heard that a
68 auto pan with clutch tube is the go? Or is later better , 76 would have R&P wouldnt it? Does this present any probs?
Thanks in advance Dave
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| posted on March 8th, 2004 at 09:01 PM |
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You can put an early body on late non-Mcpherson strut front end pan without too much problems. See tech talk - frequently asked questions section just
below this section - up the top should be my post on how to modify the rear body mount on an early body to fit the late pans (which have a higher body
mount position).
hope this helps.
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| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 11:50 AM |
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I should be swapping my 63 onto a 68 semi-auto pan in the near future.
It's preferable to put it on a pre 72 IRS pan because you wont need to check exhaust emissions then (the VIN is with the pan if u didnt already
know).
If its a semi-auto you'll need to weld in a clutch tube which is easy, while your down there you might as well put in a new fuel line (or two for
EFI). When the pan's off its so much easier to do mods, like a berg mount, etc. It more or less just bolts on.
You could mount it on a superbug pan with some work  you'll need to
fabricate some struct towers. however it would be hell cool to have a 58 with struts
[Edited on 9-3-2004 by Che Castro]
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| posted on March 9th, 2004 at 12:42 PM |
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the best pan would be the 76, they went back to the worn n gear steering
R & P were only on the 75 for some reason probally cost
The ideal set up is IRS rear and Torsion bar front end.
Jon as far as worring about DIN numbers etc the RTA wouldnt know what day it is... You can tell them what ever you like.
Its up to you on the information you provide the blue slip place for your redgo certs
Dont think i would like to fabricate strut towers to fit up to an early beetle... but anything is possible
The easiest pan to obtain would be the pre 72 semi auto bug as there were heaps of these made in comparision to 75 and 76 models.
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| posted on March 10th, 2004 at 09:03 AM |
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Having the factory R&P would be cool.
I'd probably like to have a strut front end if i could, no bumpsteer none of the problems that you have with the old torsion beam.
I know its really unlikely that the RTA or cops would check your VIN, but I'd be more worried about insurance, if you had an oval on a later pan
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| posted on March 10th, 2004 at 09:07 AM |
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about insurance, if you had an oval on a later pan it could get u into shit.
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You could always pled ignorance.... or blam it on the blue slip place You didnt know any different.
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| posted on March 10th, 2004 at 06:14 PM |
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Interesting,so what do you do each year when you get a pink slip and the grease monkey checks your pan number and its not the same,i hafta know. |
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| posted on March 10th, 2004 at 06:52 PM |
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yeah well you could say that the old one was damaged or rusted away... make sure you either keep it for prosperity or destroy it complete
especially the number so it dosent get registration again.
And you had this one fitted to your car. .... You dont know what year it is ???
Of course the Pink slip place will make you then get a Blue slip .... and you need proof of purchase from whom ever you got the pan off.
I just did this with my # 2 sons Type 3. It was a 73 Auto and i fitted a 72 Pan under it... Easier to convert it to manual. I went to the RTA and
had to have proof of ownership of the new pan all the numbers now line up.
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| posted on March 10th, 2004 at 07:02 PM |
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Thanks Dave thought it was probly somethin like that,my illegal days are long gone now im on the straight and narrow.:thumb |
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