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posted on August 16th, 2004 at 10:33 PM
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i have had it sugested that it is possible to paint a bug with a brush as long as the paint is worm, and not have it look too bad. i dont have access to spray gear. Has anyone tried something like this, and have comments? i am not looking to show, but i wouldlike a car that looks OK, and is going to last for a bit, so that if I get the $$ later, I can doit right.

Also, is it possible to paint a pannel at a time, so that I can take one pannel, stripit back, remove rust etc, and put it back onand have a useable car again without having to do the whole job at once?
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posted on August 16th, 2004 at 10:39 PM


buy yourself a little beaver they can give you a better job and not to dear if you get a 2nd hand one(have heard you can use a roller with the paint warmed up but thought it was an old wives tale)



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posted on August 16th, 2004 at 10:57 PM


I heard that Rolls Royces used to be painted with a brush rubbed smooth and more coats applied ect ect I am sure it would be possible provided your preparation is good and you rubbed back each coat but this would only apply to acrylic paint



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posted on August 16th, 2004 at 10:58 PM


try a hire place..... maybe they can help you. Don't use a brush it will never look good again without spending heaps on it.:repuke:puke



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posted on August 17th, 2004 at 09:29 AM


OK. And what about the bit by bit painting proposal?
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posted on August 17th, 2004 at 10:10 AM


You can hire a 40lt compressor for about $50 a day. Uou can also pick up cheap spray kits from Repco for around $40-50.

Try using old school enamel, you can get 4lt for under $40 with thinners.

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posted on August 17th, 2004 at 10:36 AM


My uncle in england paints his kombi with a paintbrush all the time (crazy) he only does it to pass the mot i think.

In terms of panel by panel, i am planning to do my kombi like that when i get the time. I am guessing you have a bug? so suppose it would be just as easy/difficult. My plan is to do the doors and hatches first cos i can take them off and get the hang of it with them before i take to the body.

I would also recomend the spray job rather than the brush but if you are going to do it in sections and it costs around $40 a day to hire a compressor it may be worth buying one. I am going to buy a decent compressor and then get a grinder attatchment and polisher/sander attachment (and spray gun), will probably spend $1000 or thereabouts for that but then i can take my time (plus the compressor will come in handy for other round the house jobs - i hope)
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posted on August 17th, 2004 at 10:53 PM


you can buy a cheap compressor for like $99 at bunnings or mitre 10 and a cheap spray gun and hoses etc would ahve to look better than painting it with a brush
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posted on August 18th, 2004 at 08:42 AM


ive done a kombi the trick is to use penatrol an addative to remove brush marks and a new good brush, also helps if you have done a bit of painting before,lay the paint off in the same direction,
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posted on August 18th, 2004 at 10:04 AM


I'd always recommend doing a proper paint job, but if the car doesn't warrant it, or you dont have the dosh you can do what I did. Its very easy to over capitalise on a VW going doing a paintjob as you end up restoring the whole car!

I painted a beetle back in 97 with a high density roller (you got to make sure its a high density one). Obviously prep your car the best you can, and then you use common house enamel paint, thin it out a bit and then roll it on. Make sure you are in a dust free environment as possible.

Let it dry for as long as you can (a week or more), then use a cutting compound like Farecla G3 finishing off by hand with T-cut or similar. If your arms no longer feel like they are yours you havent polished enough!

The end result wasn't too bad considering it cost 10 pound ($25) and after I left the UK in 97 I sold it to a friend who kept if for years and the paint held up really well.

I have some pics below of the end result, and I have a link describing what I did with a few more pics (excuse the quality they were scanned with a hand scanner in 97!) on an old web page at:-

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http://www.matara.net/vwpics/bmkrear.jpg

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posted on August 19th, 2004 at 10:53 AM


that looks alright to me (I know it is not a close up...but you get what you pay for....)

what did you use on the curved bits, and close to the windows?
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posted on August 19th, 2004 at 05:31 PM


ok firstly you can paint with a paint brush/roller and get a very good job.Rolls Royce did hand paint all ther cars up untill about 20 years ago and a lot of restoration shops in the uk that deal with old old classics still do it so that the cars as close to original as possible.

There are paints that are ment for this (where you get them over here i dont knows) its a very long job, prep the car,apply first coat wait 10 mins,second wait 15,third wait 12 hours.Rub back with 1200 wet and do again,repeat this 5 times and on the last rub back just buff up. The result will shock and supise many. A very deep and full look to the paint.

No one does it this way anymore as you can get a great finish with 2pac for a lot less effort. I have seen cars painted with house paint and it can look ok all depends on what you are after to what you use......


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