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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 11:51 AM
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Whats better?

If I were to use a subaru 2.5 litre, would the motor registry pass it on inspection?

Where could i put the radiator?

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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 12:29 PM


Once again, go easy on the CAPS LOCK :D

I assume you mean the EJ25. It is a technically superior engine, more power, torque, longevity, less maintainence and cheaper. You are right about watercooling, you will have to figure out where to position the radiator and how to run lines etc. Probably will also have to modify your fuel supply system for EFI. Don't know about actual fitment in the engine bay, but seeing as it is a buggy it is a lot less troublesome than a full bodied sedan. There are plenty of kits to fit the EJ engines to the VW tranny.

The type 4 would be probably lighter and smaller, would keep it aircooled, easier to do initially, cost more, less power, more maintanence.

the better is whatever you determine suits your needs. Seeing it's a buggy if it was me I'd go scooby.




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 12:31 PM


try talking to pete wood. his buggy has a scooby in it



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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 01:27 PM


putting aside the power diffs. it would depend on who you cruise with, as on hte beach if you break you need your mates to help fix. if they crew you are with are all aircooled, then you are pretty much stuck if you go subaru.

each time i have been, there has alwyas been a breakdown or two, and as we are all aircooled we carry bits for our aircooled, so we are able to help each other out. something to think about anyway.




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 01:45 PM


I'm currently rebuilding a buggy and I'm putting an EJ in it. The biggest problem you have is radiator and where you are going to put it.

Cooling on a rear mounted radiator seems to be a problem. As per Pete Woods buggy. So you kinda need to mount one on the front which can make it difficult.

At this stage it is new ground and not many people have done it, but there are allot of people about to do it it. So if you can come up with a way you think will work give it a crack, otherwise wait about 12 months until some of the current EJ powered buggy builds are done and find out what works.




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 04:31 PM


Yeah, seems difficult. I think I may go with the type IV.

However, whats this "Scooby"?




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 04:36 PM


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However, whats this "Scooby"?


It's a play on words. You Know "Scooby Doo" as in the cartoon character. Sounds Like "Subi Ru" ie Subaru. So a "Scooby" motor is a "Subi" Motor. You follow?




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 05:35 PM


Yeah, i get ur drift. I suppose the type IV would be best, cheap easy, just slap it in.



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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 08:54 PM


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Whats better?

If I were to use a subaru 2.5 litre, would the motor registry pass it on inspection?

Where could i put the radiator?



As I understand it,

yes it will pass inspection.
Put the raditor up the front as per Brad's EJ22 kits at COR.

I guess you want to know what it costs and what it will involve.
Read this,
http://www.geocities.com/peterwood734/buggyproject/subarupower.html 

I've said $10k + but brad does the slightly less powerful EJ22 for 8K drive in drive out.

Sounds like alot of cash but the finished product is awesome, and there's no way you can get that displacement, reliability and power for that price with a type4.

By the way, don't just toss a stock type 4 in. You'll need to think about the cooling and stuff if you want it to last.




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posted on April 26th, 2005 at 09:46 PM


Mate, just a quick suggestion. instead of posting a shit load of questions, do a bit of searching, bot hthere and places like the STF .... plethora of info and u dont have to type a thing ;)

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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 05:33 PM


Ah wake up, this is research. There is nothing that can overcome the knowledge gained by this site. In this site/forum I can actually converse to people who drive these things every day and who know by 1st hand experience how these things go, work and run.

Its a much better resource than some dodgy lieing website of some company trying to suk you into buying their running gear by providing biased, exaggerated information about how good it is.

At least at this place, I can get many opinions and attitudes from all locations and backgrounds to get a great idea into these things.

Anyways, what the hell do you think the purpose of a forum is for? ITS FOR CONVERSING!!! AND QUESTIONING IS CONVERSING, SO GET OVER IT!!!!

My real question is, why do you have such a problem with my questions I ask. If you don't like them, then don't read them. Simple as that.




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 05:39 PM


i think you will find adam isnt bagging you but suggesting that u do a bit of reading first as most of the questions u have been asking have already been covered in the past. use the search feature and look for the topics you are inquiring about before asking a question and u may get your answer before typing anything.



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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 05:43 PM


Now Anthiron, thats all what ADAM had to say. Your post Anthiron is much friendlier and approachable and I feel no offense or bag from that.

Adam needs to be more like you.




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 05:58 PM


mynameischris88. It's not the fact your conversing that's the problem, it's that your asking questions that have all been answered before and you're to lazy to go and search for your answers.

And I'd suggest you settle down and start treating people on here like you would if you were talking to them face to face. If you think this forum is such a great place, you had best settle down or you may find yourself not welcome here anymore.




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 06:33 PM


That is quite narrow minded to jump to conclusions (AGAIN, which you seem to have a habit of) to think of me as lazy. I laugh at you, your hilariously dissing yourself by your misunderstanding.

Its called "not knowing of such a function". Now that it has been mentioned, I now know to search.

And I am not dishing out crap, (Cause i got morals, compared to OTHER people) I am simply defending my self and rightfully rebutting the false accusations that some (unethical) people place upon my shoulders.

Learn from your mistake, or otherwise continue to be foolish. (And I will remain laughing. HA HA)




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 06:37 PM


can you explain what was narrow minded about what mike m said please as im starting to get confused with your random baggings of people who know so much. try looking on http://www.shoptalkforums.com  for some of the thing you are looking for



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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 06:51 PM


Narrow minded: Does not see the wide picture, can not see outside the square he lives etc. Only sees one answer, one path. Hence jumps to conclusions because he doesn't realise what other meanings of actions, words and languages exist, what other cultures, ways of sayings are around besides his own. etc. etc.

By all means, you could honestly say that my judgement of him being narrow minded could be harsh. But at the time, I felt somewhat offended to be accused of bullying those who the word chump refers to. However, the definition that i brought up appears to not be in wide use, and from this, i appologise to those who may have been offended due to there misunderstanding of my reference of the term.

I am not bagging, i am rebutting due to my feelings of being offended.

Im sure MikeM is a knowledgable person, and NO, im not bagging his knowledge, and im sure he is a good fella. I'm just saying that I was not refering to his definition of 'Chump'.

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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 07:02 PM


how can you not know of such a feature? ok ill enlighten you mate all forums have a bar at the top with mostly the same features ie new posts, gallery and search. the last one is very important cause it means that when people get on the they can look for past posts about things that interest them even dredge them up from a long time ago it also means that there arent double ups on posts



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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 07:10 PM


Well, my concern is not to check the whole workings of this forum, but to use it to obtain information.

Its not like you go and spend hours reading a whole car manual when you only want to know how to do something simple. Its the same with this forum.

Now that it has been mentioned, i now know of its presense (the search function that is).




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 08:14 PM


My goal is not to be a forum l337, but to get information in regards to buggies.

Anyways, haven't you heard that it is wrong to judge somebody. you don't know my background, my life or where i come from. Its quite an arogant and ignorant action (so dont do it). [however, it is just to judge actions, but i feel that mikeM is judging me personally].




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 08:24 PM


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My goal is not to be a forum l337, but to get information in regards to buggies.

Anyways, haven't you heard that it is wrong to judge somebody. you don't know my background, my life or where i come from. Its quite an arogant and ignorant action (so dont do it). [however, it is just to judge actions, but i feel that mikeM is judging me personally].


Then tell us more about yourself...what are your goals/ambitions with getting a buggy?? Who are you/whats your background?? I'm actually interested and not bagging you. I think what people might be suggesting is that they UNDERSTAND that you want answers to questions/doubts you may have but find your means of obtaining these answers rather repetitive when SOME things have been bought up sooo many times before. Now that you know about the search function i assume that you will not need to post about some things because you can search for them. being part of a forum also means that you contribute to it and not just suck the info out. I doubt MikeM is judging you....he might be bored with it all though..:jesus which is fair enough:kiss

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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 08:55 PM


I'll say it...Chris you are a fuckwit.

The 6 or so ppl on this one thread have more knowledge and know how in their big toes then you have in your intire body..

So I would strongly suggest, shut-up and listen to what ppl are trying to tell you.

because to put it simply, they know and you know SHIT...




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 08:57 PM


true. thats some good wisdom.

ok, Hi, im Chris [Hi everybody]

I had a mate who owned a late vw beetle in the backyard of his acerage. He told me to get in, and we hooned around the back yard fishtaling and having the best time of our lives. That was when i got hooked, bait, line and sinker (or however it goes)

So i looked into it on the internet. (beetles that is). I became adicted, [literally] craving to see or know more about them every day. My want for a Torana faded quickly, and it was vw all the way.

Then during my search through carsales.com.au, i came across a vw beetle based buggy. At first glance, i was like WOWWWWWOWOWOW! I wanted that, I could kill for that. It was going to be my first car, even though it would probably take 4 years + to get it.

I searched the internet more, with the craving growing. 1st, i came across http://www.beachbuggy.com.au.  A beach buggy provider at Corrumbin (south Queensland). I loved them. But they weren't as nifty/sporty/sparkly as i wanted it to be.

So my search continued. And out came http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au.  Yes, oh Yes, i wanted one of theirs. a GS Limo Sportsman with a GS Limo Offroad chassis/running gear. And from there on, months of research has developed my juicy brain up to be prepared for the construction of the kit. (however, the one om planning to get is semi-preconstructed.)

So from there, i wanted more info, looking for donor chassis and pricing them. And when i came to quieries i couldn't find answers to, i emailed KlubVWoffroad for help. They refered me to your guys, saying that you guys were the ones who would be best to help me.

And here i am, still researching and dreaming. Pretending that my mums ford laser is a buggy, imagining driving in it, thinking of what i would do with it.

My goals in getting this buggy is to stand out of the crowd. Not to be some wanna be cool ganster, but to be an individual, to be me. I want a vehicle that has character, that is fun (especially after checking out KlubVWoffroads video clips of the buggies having fun in the dunes). I want to get into the offroad concept, have fun. I want to show off my individuality and turn heads.

I want a car that will also be able to handle rough terrain, rough conditions. You never know what terrible things you may come across when traveling. (floods, storms etc.) I also want to achieve something in life, have a decent hobby. Building a buggy is a challenge for me (well a start) and gives me something to do for fun. Whether its adding this, modifying this, starting a new project, going for a sunday drive or joining a club. This is my goal/ambition in obtaining a buggy.

My background. Well, i am in year 12 in school at the moment. Im an Australian, white caucasian, Scottish, Irish, italian descent (from my great great grand parents), i go to St. Laurence's College, South Brisbane. I attended St. Matthews primary. I got 5 As and 3 Bs in my last report card (not bad for an OP ay?) and attend the subjects of Physics, Chemistry, Information Technology, English, Maths B, Art & Religion.

I plan to go to university next year and obtain a degree in Architecture. I have no enemies, have a lot of life stories (when it comes to embarrassment and girlfriends), have great friends and hate drugs, smoking, strong-alcoholism.

I see myself as being friendly, just, sometimes wierd and random, intellegent, creative, and accepting of all peoples from all cultures and am willing to learn. etc. etc. (I'm being honest, not up myself).

I also work at Byrning Spears and happen to be lucky enough to be the only male working there.

I am only a couple of months in experience when it comes to vw beetles and buggies, so i haven't got much knowledge when it comes to the location of information. And this is also my first forum i have ever joined. (hence why i don't have much knowledge with the use of a forum, like this one)

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Sorry guys, Im just a bit fired up tonight. Especially at MikeM.



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I am only a couple of months in experience when it comes to vw beetles and buggies, so i haven't got much knowledge when it comes to the location of information. And this is also my first forum i have ever joined. (hence why i don't have much knowledge with the use of a forum, like this one)

So there you are, a little bit of info about myself.



So STF..up and listen to whatt ppl are saying...Use the search feature of this forum..

Most ppl dont like to repeat themselves...99.9% of your Q? have been ask and answered... JUST BLOODY SEARCH!


If tou dont know how, just ask...

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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 09:13 PM


No worries mate. Welcome to the forum. I'm in architecture myself so if you have any Q's about what its like just u2u me.

Before you start the project, be realistic about how much $$$ you have and how much you can spend and factor in running costs. Like others have said, you can learn a lot by just searching this forum and other forums. I still can sit around for hours just trawling through old posts on forums.

p.s don't bump up 3 year old posts like the "Welcome to the tech forum" one where you just replied "this is a really old thread".




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 09:16 PM


Well how am i suppose to ask how to use the search function if i don't even know that it is there?

I had no idea. Therefore, the only method of obtaining info was to ask. Yet again, people make assumptions that everyone is born perfect and everybody knows everything. so you stf..up and realise that some people are new to this forum gimmic, and that somewhere along the line, they have to learn these things. (without people jumping down there throat of having a friken massacre)




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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 09:16 PM


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isn't that why everyone got shitty with him in the first place? we're all here to help each other.. people need to stress less, take a chill pill... whatever floats ya boat
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posted on April 28th, 2005 at 09:17 PM


My last post is refering to phat rat Insano Dub Head, so its not to offend anyone else.

Hey Che Castro! Nice to have an architect to look up to (a role model). So hows the career? Is it more art orientated then graphical?




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