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 type3lover
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| posted on March 1st, 2010 at 09:30 PM |
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Hi Bug Racer...the oil warms up too slowly to give a good representation of engine temp where and when it counts.
Hi Matara...I have recently converted to edis-4 on the type 3...it's the most reliable trigger I've used so far...the others being points, a 2.1
hall effect dizzy and a haltech s3.
I guess re the dyno idea it comes down to showing the operator how to make changes, or just getting him to hit all the load points and dialing it in
yourself on the laptop. I hope to do the latter!
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| posted on March 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 AM |
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Maybe you need a switch to change it from open loop to closed loop ? Or a variable resistor ? Tough call and I guess someone will eventually work
something out
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| posted on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 AM |
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Try using the oil temperature as a starting point and see how that goes .
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oil temps not a good one to use as it takes alot longer to heat up than the rest of the engine and responds prety slowly to temp changes, it also
reflects engine revs more than it does engine load
better off tapping the #4 head area for a sender like stock type3 setup has
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| posted on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 AM |
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Some of the US megasquirt users have been installing the "coolant" sensor in the rocker covers, they say it heats up faster with the oil splashing
off the hot cylinder head.
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| posted on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 AM |
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I just ordered a MSII kit with stim and relay board, will update my post in members rides of the build when I start assembling it.
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| posted on March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 AM |
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My parts arrived today from DIY autotune. MSII, relay board, stimulator kit and power pack for stim. I'm too scared to open up the bags untill I'm
ready to assemble it in case I lose all the bits! I'll assemble the relay board, then the stim and MS. Hopefully have the relay board and stim done
by next week.
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| posted on June 19th, 2010 at 06:50 PM |
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hey type3lover. are you the guy on youtube with the turbo blue notch with megasquirt?
this video yours?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byu8i4NJ3TY
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| posted on June 19th, 2010 at 07:15 PM |
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Hi Vlad...yeah that was a while ago! Quite a bit has changed with the setup...well in my head anyway 
Cheers, Toby
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| posted on June 19th, 2010 at 08:03 PM |
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I though that was awesome what you did. lol small world, I saw your vids many months before I joined here or even had a vdud for the mater of fact.
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 09:41 PM |
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Alright this forum has nearly died so i thought i might spring it into action. I just bought some mexi bug parts from mexico including Throttle body,
end castings, fuel rails, alternator stand and stramp. Cost me $400 to ship to brizzi. This setup i will be running on a 1914 in baja with Megasquirt
2. I will be using ford EDIS as ignition. At the moment my car is in pieces as i am rebuilding the entire thing. I can post some pictures of the mexi
stuff if anyone is interested.
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| posted on January 10th, 2011 at 09:50 PM |
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Please do, EFI is on my wish list.
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| posted on January 11th, 2011 at 03:05 PM |
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Alright this forum has nearly died so i thought i might spring it into action. I just bought some mexi bug parts from mexico including Throttle body,
end castings
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From what I read on shoptalkforums, I thought the Mexican throttle body and runners would restrict airflow to anything bigger than a 1600/1641?
Thanks
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| posted on January 11th, 2011 at 09:23 PM |
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Thought I'd put an update of my slow moving EFI project here. MS2 and stim have been built since May i think and running fine on the bench.
Everything is done and mounted in the car with the exception of the hardlines for the fuel (waiting on a tool) and the wiring harness which is
tomorrows job to get started. I was running the coolant sender (gm closed element) under the head screwed into the fins but had to move it to the
rocker cover due to clearance issues with the exhaust.
Engine is a 1600 with a port cleanup and 1.4 rockers, vintagespeed 1.9 superflow exhaust, EDIS ignition, German FI manifold with CB endcastings, KN
filter (actually says its a breather filter!!!). 14lb injectors, CSP breather etc etc.
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| posted on January 11th, 2011 at 09:25 PM |
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here's a pic as it sits presently. Quite a clean result I think, Its a daily driver when it gets back on the road.
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| posted on January 13th, 2011 at 02:37 AM |
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| Quote: | From what I read on
shoptalkforums, I thought the Mexican throttle body and runners would restrict airflow to anything bigger than a 1600/1641?
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It would if i was to rev it past 6000rpm's which i wont be so no problems to check out the photos they are in the link below and also if you want a
free hosting account with that site just place volkswagen in the comment section and i will upgrade you thanks.
http://photohost1.co.cc/thumbnails.php?album=1
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| posted on January 20th, 2011 at 10:02 PM |
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Can you setup sequential injection on the MS?
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| posted on January 21st, 2011 at 08:16 AM |
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Yes
http://www.megamanual.com/index.html
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| posted on January 21st, 2011 at 07:12 PM |
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cool. I also read the page on knock sensing, real cool stuff. I have a knock sensor at home, GM one
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| posted on January 22nd, 2011 at 03:03 PM |
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Any one direct firing a EDIS coil with MS2/Extra?
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| posted on March 2nd, 2011 at 06:24 PM |
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I guess it's about time I chimed in again...
I have had my type 3 on the road for a few weeks now...running MS2, LC1 wideband and EDIS. It's almost dialled in as far as tune goes...thanks to the
wideband and very conservative "seat of the pants" spark timing changes.
I ran with the "extra" code for a bit but am using the B&G 2.9 for simplicity's sake.
Next is to add the turbocharger, which means no more EDIS if I want spark cut for the rev limiter. Currently atmo I just use the fuel cut but this
would be disastrous with a turbo.
No biggie...MS2 will happily decode the 36-1 trigger wheel anyway and run wasted spark...heck if I wanted I could run sequential injection and COP but
that can happen later.
How is everyone else going?
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| posted on March 4th, 2011 at 02:55 PM |
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doesn't the MS have spark cut rev limiting feature?
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| posted on March 4th, 2011 at 10:39 PM |
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Yeah Vlad it does...however whenever the EDIS module loses the "SAW" signal from the ECU it goes into limp home mode which locks the timing at
10*btdc until it gets a signal again, but it still fires every ignition event.
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| posted on March 7th, 2011 at 12:28 PM |
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Thanks, I understand now. So the EDIS module controls the ignition as like a stand alone device but need data from the ecu for timing control?
So its like a more advanced form of the DFi module seen on Holden V6's?
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| posted on March 7th, 2011 at 12:50 PM |
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Thanks, I understand now. So the EDIS module controls the ignition as like a stand alone device but need data from the ecu for timing control?
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Exactly...but of course it must send a signal to MS...no rpm signal = no fuel delivery
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So its like a more advanced form of the DFi module seen on Holden V6's?
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No idea...the last time I worked on a holden was when I removed the injectors from a VY to fit to my notch 
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| posted on March 7th, 2011 at 01:26 PM |
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haha you should checkout VN-VP V6 delco ECU's and efi system.
programmable, versatile, simple,reliable no dizzy 
check it. I am a bit vague on tuning but some cool stuff in here.
http://www.delcohacking.net/forums/
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| posted on March 9th, 2011 at 12:11 PM |
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I run an EDIS with a Mega-jolt on my turbo 1776, I think it's the best value thing I've ever bought.
I will definitely be running EDIS/Mega-squirt EFI on the engine currently being planned.
I can't find anything as good for the money.
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| posted on March 17th, 2011 at 03:46 AM |
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Next is to add the turbocharger, which means no more EDIS if I want spark cut for the rev limiter. Currently atmo I just use the fuel cut but this
would be disastrous with a turbo.
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You could always try one of these:
http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/products/accessories/Dyna_RPM_Limiters/
Stand-alone, hooks to coil O/P triggers. Not sure about the response of MS to it, but probably wouldn't affect anything (including EDIS).
Don't worry about it being for a bike, I've used them on upgraded HEI before no worries.
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| posted on May 26th, 2011 at 02:27 PM |
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Sticking to MegaSquirt, any suggestions on which Aussie car parts are a direct fit as peripherals for a MegaSquirt setup?
I've got CB Performance 48mm throttle bodies, on type 4 IDF manifolds. Got pump, 36 tooth crank wheel.
need to identify:
crank pick-up
Coil pack
injectors for a 2.0 to 2.2 litre type 4 with mild Webcam cam.
Also need advice on exactly which MegaSquirt ( I expect MegaSquirt II ) and which add on modules are required as a minimum to run crank-fired ignition
initially, then replacing carbs with injection.
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| posted on May 28th, 2011 at 10:43 PM |
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I need to keep an eye on this, trying to learn what i need as I am gathering parts and want to start putting it all together. I have my Electromotive
VW crank trigger kit, and from a wrecked magna i have an O2 sensor, injectors and throttle body. Im going to use CB endcastings and already have an
SC12 supercharger on custom intake mounting. Just a little confused on which megasquirt would be best as looking to run wasted spark since i dont have
cam reference, and probably can only run batch fire injection because of same. I dont want to run EDIS but directly fire coil with MS, less things to
patch in but not sure would it make it a more simple system. I like the idea of having an MSD type of fire, long strong duration, but still reading up
so not sure if this can be done with MS.
Those experienced could throw me some advice.
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| posted on June 26th, 2014 at 07:30 PM |
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Hi all,
just bringing up an old thread to see peoples progress and to see if others have jumped on board with Megasquirt.
I have purchased a MS3x and will be going full sequential fuel injection and spark. I am getting very close to starting the wiring process that is a
little scary when I look at the numbers of wires.
I'm also looking into a knock sensor system, but not MS. I have been thinking of the J&S Safeguard system, but it is a little pricey. http://www.jandssafeguard.com/
Here is a photo of some of my MS stuff, although a little blury as its all in plastic bags for now.
Kev
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