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 desminton
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| posted on April 16th, 2010 at 07:59 AM |
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Seatbelts in a 56 Oval
Dear all
The previous owner of my 56 Bug must have had seatbelts as there are plates welded to the pillar suitable for a 3 point belt. Can anyone recommend a
good after market belt, I've spotted some on a US site which look period (see pic)
Cheers
Des
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| posted on April 16th, 2010 at 10:16 AM |
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The USA belts are not certifable in Aussie
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| posted on April 16th, 2010 at 03:05 PM |
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True - wouldn't be allowed on a car made after the ADRs came in in '71.
But should be fine on a '56 that didn't come with seatbelts in the first place.
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| posted on April 16th, 2010 at 08:10 PM |
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erm I think regardless of pre rules if it's a recent aftermkt fitout Aussie standards would have to be adhrered to as I'm sure the insurance co
would pull any claim without oz standard being followed
if it didn't come with belts why have em?
if ya really want em maybe a lap belt will suffice
cheers paul
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| posted on April 16th, 2010 at 08:24 PM |
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The seat belts & mounting points should be engineer certified as it is a modification to a standard vehicle.Another reason for this is for your
own safety,I did a vehicle recently that had bels fitted,they looked neat but the top mounting points used 1/4" coach bolts and the lower points were
very weak also,possibly would have pulled through the pan in an impact if the top points didn't let go first.I know this argument has been had before
but when it is a safety issue why risk geting injuredor killed to save a couple of dollars.h you say why fit them or just a lap belt? How many race
cars or production vehicles use lap belts?
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 08:20 PM |
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Many cars use lap belts in the centre of the rear seat - my '95 Golf does. Lap belts were a common 'aftermarket' kit for front seats in the 1960s
when cars didn't come with seat belts as standard. Many of them used aircraft-style belts and buckles, which planes still use. I remember our family
'59 Beetle had a set, and having to root around under the seat every time trying to find both ends.
We are talking about a 1956 model car. It was not made with seat belts, and spent much of its 54 years driving around without seat belts - as every
other car made in the 1950s did. VWs did not even have seat belt mounting holes until 1962. No Australian state even required cars to have seat belts
until 1968 (VIC). Insurance companies would recognise that a 1956 car is a 'vintage' car, like they would if an accident involved an FJ Holden, a
WW2 era Jeep, a Model A or Model T Ford, or any other car that wasn't built with seat belts.
That said, of course if you do fit seat belts to a 1956 car, you still want to do it properly.
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 08:53 PM |
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Phil that is exactly my point,there is nothing more devastating than coming to the scene of an accident and finding someone who is very precious to
you being put in an ambulance with life threatening injuries because a car load of old white leghorns who had been at the club all afternoon came
around the corner on the wrong side of the road ,smashed into the little Datto,tore the front off and the seat belt failed causing untold injuries
that still give grief to this day.The Datto was still fairly new at that stage but that didn't help. But I make no apologies for my thoughts in this
area,even if the cars are 60 years old it doesn't mean no one will be injured in a crash.
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| posted on April 18th, 2010 at 10:23 AM |
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VW54
Why are US made seat belts not allowed in Australia, Camaro,s Corvettes and Mustangs etc, all have USA made seat belts and they comply with the
relevant ADR's
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| posted on April 18th, 2010 at 11:20 AM |
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No they dont my nephew just bought a mustang in from the states and one of the things he had to do to get it passed was change the belts, this is in
SA
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| posted on May 23rd, 2010 at 05:32 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by desminton
Dear all
The previous owner of my 56 Bug must have had seatbelts as there are plates welded to the pillar suitable for a 3 point belt. Can anyone recommend a
good after market belt, I've spotted some on a US site which look period (see pic)
Cheers
Des
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Hi Des,
I am restoring my 54 oval and would also like to add belts for safety. I know it'll never be as safe as a new car but with over 100BHP in the back
and an 18 month old daughter to consider I want to make it as safe as possible.
Could you possibly post up or email me some pix of the front top mounts please. The rest is a doddle but the area between the bottom of the rear side
window and the bottom of the semaphore aperture seems like the only realistic option for the front belts' top mount (similar to 62 on cars I
guess).
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Rick
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