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posted on June 24th, 2010 at 12:41 PM
What Engine tinware do I need that's CB specific ?


So I have:
1x fanshroud without the heater air ducts (CB and vw industrial motor specific)
2x top tinware covers over the barrels.
1x back tinware
1x front tinware
1x tinware behind pulley

So what goes underneath ?

Is there anything else that is specific to the CB motor ?

Photo's would be good !




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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 11:35 AM



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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 12:35 PM



From memory there is like a little sump guard bolted to the bottom of the motor, I will check mine out for you but it is at the farm and I wont be back there untill next thur
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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 08:56 PM



Guys,
Yes, many seemed to come with Protection Plates but I dont think they were on all vehicles. Its something I have never been able to confirm.
The other piece of tinware that is different to the Beetle is the front plate with the opening hinged hole for the crank handle. I understand this is Type 2 specific but there is no part number in the manual for any of the tinware.
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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 09:02 PM



yep I have the sump guard............and yes i have the CB front plate with the hole.

Bill, what goes under the pushrod tube area or is it just bare ?




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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 09:45 PM



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Guys,
Yes, many seemed to come with Protection Plates but I dont think they were on all vehicles. Its something I have never been able to confirm.
The other piece of tinware that is different to the Beetle is the front plate with the opening hinged hole for the crank handle. I understand this is Type 2 specific but there is no part number in the manual for any of the tinware.
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In the parts list is under Engine Cooling section :
housing fan 114 119 025Z
cover - starting handle hole 12Y 119 053
insert- engine cover plt.rear 12Y 119 061
cover plate cylinder left 113 119 304D
deflector left / right 113 119 317
heater channel lower fr.right 111 119 350
heater channel lower left 113 119 351B
heater channel lower rear right 111 119 352G
air deflector plt.rear left 111 119 357B
air deflector plt.rear right 113 119 358
air deflector plt - left 126 119 461
........................right 126 119 462
cover plate engine front 113 119 517H
...........................rear 114 119 523 ZA
cover plt.below crankshaft pulley 113 119 533 G
and lots of covers around preheating pipes

The sump protection grille is listed as an option...113 100 805 / 806
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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 09:58 PM



clear as mud :D !



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posted on June 25th, 2010 at 10:40 PM



What is that you don't understand?
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posted on June 26th, 2010 at 08:08 AM



Craig I think you may need to look at one .Mine has plates below the push rod tubes like you said
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posted on July 10th, 2010 at 01:52 PM



Hi Craig,
Here are some photos of the tinware that is underneath.Hope this helps.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll9/CBCRAIG1/BILD0505.jpg 
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll9/CBCRAIG1/BILD0506.jpg 
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll9/CBCRAIG1/BILD0508.jpg 
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll9/CBCRAIG1/BILD0507.jpg 
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posted on July 18th, 2010 at 10:26 PM



Wow, Craig, you’re scaring me. The engine in the pictures doesn’t have the “under barrel” tin pieces in place (Item 5). These are extremely critical for cooling a VW engine. If they aren’t there you get terrible hot spots on the bottom of the cylinders. Poor old VW engines suffer enough in Australia, even with all the tin on there. “Cool Tin” is better of course. Sorry mate, I recommend you pull the heads off and install them ASAP.
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posted on July 19th, 2010 at 03:54 PM



This appears to be not specific to CB...dog house .....and item 7 and 8 I'm not sure about...
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posted on July 19th, 2010 at 06:23 PM



Quite correct John, as always. Sorry I should have pointed that out, it’s not CB. I just got it off the internet somewhere. I like items 7 & 8 too. Don’t know what they’re off, perhaps stationary engines or in applications somewhere in the world where the (smelly) cooling air is still fed straight to the heater ducts? I don’t know.
The Country Buggy parts manual never had a picture like this in it so that makes it a bit hard. I’m guessing if you find a late 60s parts book with the correct numbers and picture in it you could use the CB parts manual to work out exactly what was used, but I can’t find that. Good luck.
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posted on July 19th, 2010 at 06:38 PM



7 and 8 are 36hp tinware.:tu:





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