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ACT65Deluxe Casual Dubber

37 posts · joined Apr 2014 ·

#1012765
Hi All

Just wondering if anyone knows where I can source some rear rims around the size in this pic.

Cheers

Clem

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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012810
Guy on Ebay sells sets of professionally re-rimmed VW steels. he may be able to go bigger but he mainly uses Holden 6 inch wide rims and then welds Vw centres into them 🙂

If you can't find a rim that is as wide as you want that is factory made then I'm afraid banded steels are illegal in Oz.
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bussboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

138 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#1012812
Dont buy wheels that have modified hoops (Banded) this is an old school practice which is not safe, new hoops for beetle wide 5 wheels are available in 6 inch 7 inch 8 inch 10 inch. In other word useing your centres and new wheel hoops fitted. Go to a recognised wheel works to get them built.
15 x 7 newly built

scoopsta Learner Dubber

19 posts · joined Jun 2011 ·

#1012820
bussboy where did you get yours from im after a pair of 15 x 6's and how much?

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1012824
They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.


Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........
bussboy wrote:........ this is an old school practice which is not safe..........when done by a Neanderthal who doesn't know s%!t from clay and is only out for a quick buck.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012826
scoopsta wrote:bussboy where did you get yours from im after a pair of 15 x 6's and how much?
Guy on Ebay does 6 inch wides in both wide 5 and 4 stud. Sells a set of 4 for $950 and they are certified so shouldn't be any legal woes.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012827
modnrod wrote:They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.


Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........
bussboy wrote:........ this is an old school practice which is not safe..........when done by a Neanderthal who doesn't know s%!t from clay and is only out for a quick buck.
Banding is safe if done properly. The companies in the Uk and europe that do this use a twin head welder at 180 degrees to each other with auto rotate related to the wire spool speed. Quite fun to watch in practice 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

bussboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

138 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#1012831
Dont want to start a pissing contest but why would you band a wheel when hoops are available ?




psimitar wrote:
modnrod wrote:They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.


Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........
bussboy wrote:........ this is an old school practice which is not safe..........when done by a Neanderthal who doesn't know s%!t from clay and is only out for a quick buck.
Banding is safe if done properly. The companies in the Uk and europe that do this use a twin head welder at 180 degrees to each other with auto rotate related to the wire spool speed. Quite fun to watch in practice 🙂

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012842
bussboy wrote:Dont want to start a pissing contest but why would you band a wheel when hoops are available ?




psimitar wrote:
modnrod wrote:They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.


Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........
bussboy wrote:........ this is an old school practice which is not safe..........when done by a Neanderthal who doesn't know s%!t from clay and is only out for a quick buck.
Banding is safe if done properly. The companies in the Uk and europe that do this use a twin head welder at 180 degrees to each other with auto rotate related to the wire spool speed. Quite fun to watch in practice 🙂
If they are freely available for the size centre you have then brilliant but if not then banding is the only other way. Of the rims I know fit a VW centre will be Commodore and pre 1990 Jaguar. I think there's one more but I can't remember it.

Oh and cutting down a centre to fit the rim isn't a great idea as the centre to rim load point goes from a flat section to a point.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1012845
I've got 15 X 6's that will be going on my bug...
Bought them off gumtree! Look out for Buggy / Baja wheels, often they can be 15"... 😊🙂

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modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1012849
I'd love to run them on my L bug.
I rekn the wide smoothies would suit the "extra mature curves" pretty well. 😁

I wish someone made them in 4 x 130, still with older hubcaps. I would just buy them and throw them on, I probably wouldn't even weigh them first.
*sigh* Yeah OK, I probably would weigh them........😂

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012878
adlbeetle66 wrote:I've got 15 X 6's that will be going on my bug...
Bought them off gumtree! Look out for Buggy / Baja wheels, often they can be 15"... 😊🙂
Are you sure they're 15? Those centres look like 14 centres. If the diameter from the very outside edge is 15 then they are 14s and if closer to 16 then they are 15s. Tyres are measured from the inside of the sealing edge and not the outside edge of the wheel.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012879
modnrod wrote:I'd love to run them on my L bug.
I rekn the wide smoothies would suit the "extra mature curves" pretty well. 😁

I wish someone made them in 4 x 130, still with older hubcaps. I would just buy them and throw them on, I probably wouldn't even weigh them first.
*sigh* Yeah OK, I probably would weigh them........😂
4 x 130. Isn't that Porsche 912 or maybe 914 steels?
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adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1012883
Here is a pic that was on the original ad... ❓

I bought a whole lot of 14's once, the guy said they were 15's so i jumped at them... 😊

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adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1012884
Does this make them a 15"...........❓

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1012912
adlbeetle66 wrote:Does this make them a 15"...........❓
Yup, that's a 15. It's either got a 14 centre or a cut down 15 as the curved section of a 15 centre is larger than those. I wonder what rims they used? Holden, Ford or something else to get the 6inch wide rim?
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1012918
Not sure... the guy was putting 7 inch wides on his 😂🙄

bussboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

138 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#1012993
Mate when you get them shoot a pic of the inside.
Cheers
adlbeetle66 wrote:Here is a pic that was on the original ad... ❓

I bought a whole lot of 14's once, the guy said they were 15's so i jumped at them... 😊

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1012995
Yup.. when i next remember i will!!

bussboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

138 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#1013299
Yep centre has been machined down to fit the hoop, all good.

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1013300
Thanks 😁

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1013372
personally I prefer a hoop that fits the centre properly but so long as the run-out has be made minimal then they'll be OK.

The welding however doesn't look fantastic but hopefully it got good penetration.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1013572
Yes, hopefully, will see how we go... i think i will know when the welds break 😊🤓

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1013580
adlbeetle66 wrote:Yes, hopefully, will see how we go... i think i will know when the welds break 😊🤓
Not exactly something to joke about if it's a front wheel. For safety I'd grind those welds flat and then get a professional welder to run a new bead of weld. Or wire wheel the paint of the centre near the weld and on the tyre side of the rim where the weld runs. From this you should still be able to see the heat pattern left by the weld and hopefully some weld pool that had started to break through to the other side. That's if they didn't dress the weld on that side of the rim.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 ·

#1013592
Was joking... thats the prob with this forum, you can't see peoples faces after they have typed something...
Its the rear wheel, and yes, will definitely be investigating before use 🙂

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1013603
That's cool man. I just don't like the less knowledgeable getting stiffed by someone who is ok with selling inferior parts.

Those people make bad joo joo.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍