2bays 2 different builds 1will be 4x4

roverv8bay · 2013-03-31T01:17:04+00:00

G'day all. just a kick off my daughter bought her husband a 74 bay as a surprise xmas present then she bought her dad a76 bay the son in law's is gong to be a resto but running ej18 it was originally a 1600 they have bought a 1963 caravan to resto to go behind it. It has minimal rust & minor ding's. Mine is a different type of build it has had the rear gaurd's cut & rolled to baja style by previous owner it has been in a shed since rego ran out in 05 so body is pretty good. my plans are for a baja bus but not in usual style. I have sopent many hour's laying under a photo taking to find 4x4 spindles that could possibly fit the front end after a lot of measuring closest is rodeo. The drive train is 3.5 ltr rover v8 behind front seat backed up with a hiace alloy case 5speed same shape as supra but side shift linkage's this is then connected to a 720 Nissan transfer case which is divorced from trans by a short shaft made up of kombi cv joint a drive flange of kombi box & shaft machined to have the hiace gearbox yoke welded to it the diff's are vt v6 auto commodore the rear drive shaft is pretty short so I am using a late model 180b half shaft as a tail shaft as it bolts to transfer case need to modify the rear flange for diff joint but not an issue the front shaft is a combination of commodore wagon & 180b half shaft to allow for slide. the whole drive train will be mounted on to a separate 10cm x 5 cm boxed frame bolted to inner kombi rails. to get clearance for front diff I have moved the centre steering arm to the bottom of the beam instead of thru the middle unlike the factory built mules for testing the syncro running gear. the shifter is hiace remote but using marine style control cables instead of bar type linkages to clear the motor the engineer doing my machining has assured me he can cut & shut the drive shaft's to take kombi outer's for the rear & rodeo front's to commodore shafts with out any worries so that's the biggest expense out of the way. I am tossing up wether to use straight lpg twin carby manifold I have or stay with the injection. pics to follow ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 8 Sep 2014, 4:56 pm

#999798

G'day all. fathers day from son. Now too fit them
ernie

how to fit them

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 10 Sep 2014, 11:56 am

#999926

G'day all. started to build the headers for ECLECTIC the only way to get manifolds to fit because of space. this is the left side because of exhaust pulse there's a bit more work in this side due to that right side is pretty straight forward they will run 2 into 1 the again was going to do 4 into 1 but easier Also try to maintain equal length runners
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 28 Sep 2014, 3:08 pm

#1001011

G'day all. Been sorting out the speedo drive. have to modify the Toyota unit to fit the Nissan transfer case. 1st job is too machine the Nissan shaft to fit into Toyota drive electronic housing the machine the Nissan housing internal out to take the Toyota housing. This is to allow for the difference in the housings diameter. this will be an easy fix to allow mw to use electronic speedo & vss for motor

ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 1 Oct 2014, 7:15 am

#1001141

G'day all. looking forward to Warwick hope the weather hangs dry would be nice & not to hot. Another mechanical problem solved. The McLeod thrust bearing was the wrong size & shape to use on the Daihatsu P plate after searching the Repco clutch book for a suitable unit I had to do 1 of 2 things use a different unit & get a spacer made to fit it to the carrier or use the expensive original & have a sleeve made to fit over it & suit the p/plate. Here's what I came up with simple solution.
ernie
This is the McLeod unit

this is the profile of the Daihatsu unit note the curve on the face

this is the front face of sleeve

this is the rear side

this is the 2 parts prior to being pressed together the unit next to it is the Daihatsu bearing

as you see ECLECTIC is time consuming in chasing down or modifying stuff to use that will be reliable & strong enough to do the job even though IT'S not heavy in the weight compared to a range rover. all for now.
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 28 Oct 2014, 5:49 pm

#1002570

Good evening all. Big relief today.I took the front beam & spindle to Engineer today along with the steering rack & bevel box. I received the ok to go ahead with the front conversion so now I really need to get head down into it so Thursday the beam is going in so I can work out the steering location & the diff mount's.
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 1 Dec 2014, 10:38 am

#1004479

G'day all. been a bit slow on ECLECTIC last few weeks due to home reno's. But have been chasing bits last week I scored a freebie a long range range rover alloy tank. plus a rover zf auto to use the bell housing on the rover v8 alfetta auto transaxle I plan to build when ECLECTIC'S finished so all round a good week of hunting & gathering
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 4 Dec 2014, 6:39 pm

#1004700

G'day all. put the front end in now to start locating the diff & rack. I had to cut the mounting lug off the diff cover to allow the diff to move forward
by 8cms. also picked up the modified speedo drive.
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 10 Jan 2015, 9:32 pm

#1006674

G'day all. happy new year to you all. Things have been quite on ECLECTIC I had 3 weeks in Melbourne last month so nothing achieved picked up 2 turbos so going to do some research on roverv8 fitted with them the pro's & con's of fitting them before I go ahead with them. I have the beam in I fitted a set of beetle adjusters to it to set the height once I have it set I will weld the torsion bar holder in the centre in the adjusters are a once off use
ernie

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 2 Apr 2015, 8:00 pm

#1010763

G'day all. I have pulled the front end out for final sorting of the mountings for the diff centre & rack the diff will be offset to allow the tailshaft to run beside the sump instead of under it. The left hand rodeo standard halfshaft will be spot on length wise once I have an adapter made to bolt cv to holden diff the right hand side has to be built I looking through finding another brand cv with the same spline size to try & find a shaft long enough to fit without being cut & shut

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 22 Jul 2015, 9:05 am

#1016861

Good morning all. It's been a while since last post. I have the left side driveshaft being modified by spigot & press fitting the out put shaft from the commodore diff & the outer cv shaft end off the rodeo I hope to have it back next week. Once it's back I can set the diff in it's final position & get the length for the right hand shaft. it will be made up from small tailsahft tubing with same shafts as the other one. I have to use commodore outer cv. as they have the plunge in them. while I have been waiting for some down time I stated to mock up my future project a v8 trike. Using a rover running on straight lpg through 2 gas carbies bolted to rover manifold. It will be front engine along with a Alfa Romeo auto transaxle adapted to the motor using a $10.00 ring from scrappies that formed part of the analogue tv station. a few pics of it as it sits.
the carbies will be replaced by the LPG carbies & allow the frame to sit down lower. I have been told that it will be registrable

this is the auto set up

this is a manual but showing the suspension arrangement

a couple of pics of the adapter ring not pretty but strong & functional

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1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 22 Jul 2015, 10:25 am

#1016863

WTF ??
Are you building a Trike now?

More pics of the bike please.
Mitchell

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 22 Jul 2015, 6:29 pm

#1016892

Good evening Walter. I'm still working on the kombi. the trike is for when I have to wait for stuff for the kombi. It's along term project
ernie

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568 posts · joined Dec 2010 · 24 Jul 2015, 7:25 pm

#1016984

Ernie, you are a machine! i love this thread. Keep the pics and idea coming.

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 24 Jul 2015, 8:29 pm

#1016991

Good evening all. The engineer rang me that he couldn't separate the outer cv from the shaft he tried to press it off using a 15ton press to no avail the spring clip locked into the shaft & wouldn't release. So 6 x 100 mm cutting discs later I had cut the cv housing & the splined cup off the shaft so now I have to wait till he gets time to fit it in

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4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 27 Jul 2015, 5:10 pm

#1017089

Looks like rover v8s are popular at your house lol

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 27 Jul 2015, 7:21 pm

#1017094

Good evening vlad01 the rovers are cheap light not real powerhouse but more than sufficient for my purpose. I had a smokey & the bandit type Trans Am 454 with auto offered to me for free. just a bit big for my needs.

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4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 27 Jul 2015, 11:50 pm

#1017106

yeah they are small sized for v8, which makes them good for stuff like this.

LS are good like that too, light and small, but not exactly cheap, but you do get big power from them and plenty of aftermarket parts and tuners out there.

I got a look in on some LS1 one builds and they are like a coat hanger inside and small as externally. hard to believe they are 5.7L

How much do the rover v8 weigh anyway?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 30 Jul 2015, 8:46 am

#1017196

G'day Vlad. google tells me approx. weight is 220kg

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 12 Aug 2015, 8:27 pm

#1017715

Good evening all. I picked up the left hand drive shaft. it consist of the outer end of the rodeo with a 13mm diameter by 20mm long spigot pressed into the inner drive flange shaft out of the commodore IRS the tailshaft man heated it before welding it so hope it last for at least test drive. It's 10mm longer than the rodeo shaft

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1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 12 Aug 2015, 8:36 pm

#1017716

Hopefully it was joined using a morse taper as well as the weld or did he shrink fit them together ,and why didn't he also plug weld it ????

Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel

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4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 16 Aug 2015, 2:23 pm

#1017824

roverv8bay wrote:G'day Vlad. google tells me approx. weight is 220kg

wow thats a lot heavier than I expected.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 17 Sep 2015, 8:25 pm

#1018872

Good evening all. I have Been busy doing a change on the steering rack. I have replaced the heavy bulky Daewoo unit with an Audi. I have had the tierod arms threaded to take Astra tierod were the original bent end with restrictive bush mount was. The bushes & angles limited the movement. the arm in the photo fitted pvc tube dummy for length

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 8 Nov 2015, 8:42 pm

#1020776

good evening all. I have the spindles back from being modified for the tierod ends off the Daewoo steering arms. the rodeo hole tapers where to big & upside down. I can now assemble the front end & get it back on 4 wheels to set up the rack into place & star sorting out the steering column & bevelbox back to the rack

the kombi hole out of the centre arm machined to fit into spindle hole

the modified arm prior to fitting new hole these will be drilled between the new & old hole 1/8th at 180 degs to take roll pins to stop them turning with the tierods

fitted in to place

the spindle in front is the modified 1 note the difference in the length of the top section & location of the new hole to bring the camber into place

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 26 Nov 2015, 9:36 pm

#1021450

Good evening all. the waterpump blank plate with thermostat housing fitted. The thermostat will mount in the bottom hose near the electric waterpump

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 29 Nov 2015, 7:31 pm

#1021515

Good evening all. this the makings of the taillights for ECLECTIC. 1cm thick aluminium with LED lights. The plate will be shaped to the kombi lens the tapped in the back to take studs to secure to the body.

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 29 Dec 2015, 5:05 pm

#1022352

Good afternoon all. I did a bit on the trike today. waiting for Engineer to come back to work to redo the front driveshaft. here's what the transaxle looks like behind the rover it has increased the wheelbase by about 3 inches

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 9 Jan 2016, 7:16 pm

#1022685

Good evening all. I have chosen the colour for ECLECTIT. It was easy to choose as it was a freebie. pure yellow tinter with pure white tinter above the waist line.

I slipped the Di Dion tube under the trike to see where it would sit. I will have to trim the bellhousing ring to sit it up under
there no problem with torque convertor clearance.

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 10 Jan 2016, 4:55 pm

#1022702

Good afternoon all. I started stripping the dash steering column handbrake assembly heater controls accelerator pedal & linkage setup next job is to drop the pedals out & steering box out. I'm happy with the condition behind the dash. I have to build the support braces for the E30 BMW manual pedal assemblies. The curved steel square tubing cost me $2.00 each they will be secured to the inner panels with rivnuts.

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 6 Feb 2016, 8:35 pm

#1023497

Good evening all. After driving a bay I forgot how well set up the pedals are so I have drop the idea of swing pedals. I did some final sorting out of clearances on the front CV joints I had to lower the bottom hole into the spindle to give me room for the CV rubber on the control arm. the best thing about the way I had the Engineer doing my machining modify The rodeo spindles. I had to remove the steering stop off the arm to clear the boot on right lock

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250 posts · joined Jan 2013 · 13 Feb 2016, 2:28 pm

#1023673

Good afternoon all. I have found that the front shocks interfere with the driveshafts. I have move the bottom of the shock 5cm forward to clear. Using a piece of 5cm x 5cm tube the stud for the shock is to short to get a nut on. After looking on google & trying suppliers there was nothing over the counter. After some thought I could only find a way around it was to make my own. Using a cyclone rod nut & 12mm x 1.05 tap I recut the thread it was a simple tidy up if the existing thread. I then screwed a bolt into the nut & locked a nut onto it then into the drill press & using a 10mm grinder I ground it down to suit the hole in the spacer then I file finished & emery paper it in the drill the cut the end of with a hack saw this is the finished product
This is mk1 1st one I made to rough so made the 2nd one a lot better finish.

The spacer a prototype of what I need

the 1st attempt to rough to use. this is the cyclone nut I'm using

2nd attempt better happy with this