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lauzboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

177 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#1023134
I've had several exhausts, the last one being a stainless extractors and hide-away system. I ditched it and got a Vintage Speed and wish I'd done it sooner. I've been running the VS system for about 5 years and wouldn't go back.

Whilst the extractors probably flow better, the VS system doesn't bottom out over driveways, fits the stock rear apron cutouts nicely, you don't have to take the muffler off to do #1&2 tappets, etc

The build quality justifies the price, and if you're running a single carb then the pre-heat tube outlets actually flow the exhaust gas THRU, not just pulsing from #2&4

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1023136
all VS systems available from VVDS in Sydney

Had mine on for 5 years or so great sound and no fuss
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1023156
Stock carb? You will definitely need heat risers
Either Vintage Speed or stock.

If stock get a flange kit put on and then ceramic coated
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1023169
If the engine is basically stock, bar the extra few CC, then the Vintage Speed is the nicest solution and won't ever rust like the large majority of header and silencer options on the market.

Check out their website as they're only in Taiwan, IIRC, so direct shipping could save you a few pennies. Worth a shot 🙂
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Blue65 Officially Full-On Dubber

298 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023815
psimitar wrote:If the engine is basically stock, bar the extra few CC, then the Vintage Speed is the nicest solution and won't ever rust like the large majority of header and silencer options on the market.

Check out their website as they're only in Taiwan, IIRC, so direct shipping could save you a few pennies. Worth a shot 🙂
Thanks you.

Do you have a link for that please?
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1023833
Blue65 wrote:Thanks you.

Do you have a link for that please?
Yup, tis just a .com.tw address. Here it is Vintage Speed Taiwan website
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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023838
We have a 1776 and stock exhaust with bigger flowing tips is fine. Depends on your budget and what you have already. If I had to replace our system due to rust etc, I would weigh up the cost between the stock quality one we have now and the Vintage Speed. When we got the engine built, the engine builder said with the single stock rejetted carby, a larger exhaust was not necessary, just the larger tips.
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ragged Just ask if you need HELP!

478 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#1023858
I have that model with the heat risers brand new that you can have for $750 delivered, if your interested? Dave

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1023867
Well the Vintage Speed is meant to flow better than the std exhaust so will make a few extra ponies but should make it rev more freely too.

I do vaguely remember Volksworld doing a back to back test on a std 1600 with all the types of aftermarket exhausts compared to the standard and the vintage did give more BHP yet the Abarth style was worse than the stock exhaust as well as the phat boy muffler cos it dropped exhaust gas speed too much for the 1600 but would work better on a 1776 upwards.

Bigger tips would help reduce back pressure but if the Vintage internal tubing of the main can flow better than a stock exhaust then it'll always be better and would still work well upto around a 1776. Then I'd say it would start restricting the flow of larger motors 🙂
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Blue65 Officially Full-On Dubber

298 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023942
psimitar wrote:Well the Vintage Speed is meant to flow better than the std exhaust so will make a few extra ponies but should make it rev more freely too.

I do vaguely remember Volksworld doing a back to back test on a std 1600 with all the types of aftermarket exhausts compared to the standard and the vintage did give more BHP yet the Abarth style was worse than the stock exhaust as well as the phat boy muffler cos it dropped exhaust gas speed too much for the 1600 but would work better on a 1776 upwards.

Bigger tips would help reduce back pressure but if the Vintage internal tubing of the main can flow better than a stock exhaust then it'll always be better and would still work well upto around a 1776. Then I'd say it would start restricting the flow of larger motors 🙂
Sorry is the vintage speed one have the Abarth style??

I have a 1641cc engine
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Blue65 Officially Full-On Dubber

298 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023943
lauzboy wrote:I've had several exhausts, the last one being a stainless extractors and hide-away system. I ditched it and got a Vintage Speed and wish I'd done it sooner. I've been running the VS system for about 5 years and wouldn't go back.

Whilst the extractors probably flow better, the VS system doesn't bottom out over driveways, fits the stock rear apron cutouts nicely, you don't have to take the muffler off to do #1&2 tappets, etc

The build quality justifies the price, and if you're running a single carb then the pre-heat tube outlets actually flow the exhaust gas THRU, not just pulsing from #2&4
Can you buy them here or did you order them from Taiwan direct?
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Blue65 Officially Full-On Dubber

298 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023944
ragged wrote:I have that model with the heat risers brand new that you can have for $750 delivered, if your interested? Dave
Yes, I'm interested. I have a 1641cc engine with heater components - will it fit?
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#1023948
Blue65 wrote:
psimitar wrote:Well the Vintage Speed is meant to flow better than the std exhaust so will make a few extra ponies but should make it rev more freely too.

I do vaguely remember Volksworld doing a back to back test on a std 1600 with all the types of aftermarket exhausts compared to the standard and the vintage did give more BHP yet the Abarth style was worse than the stock exhaust as well as the phat boy muffler cos it dropped exhaust gas speed too much for the 1600 but would work better on a 1776 upwards.

Bigger tips would help reduce back pressure but if the Vintage internal tubing of the main can flow better than a stock exhaust then it'll always be better and would still work well upto around a 1776. Then I'd say it would start restricting the flow of larger motors 🙂
Sorry is the vintage speed one have the Abarth style??

I have a 1641cc engine
No mate. I was just elaborating on the different types of exhaust that were tested and used the Abarth as it's a popular-ish choice due to the twin tip outlets making it look like an old 60's Ferrari style exhaust. However looks doesn't mean it'll actually perform.

But to clarify the magazine article said that the vintage speed exhaust worked very well on the std 1600 engine they used as the test bed and gave more BHP and torque than the std VW exhaust.
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Blue65 Officially Full-On Dubber

298 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1023950
Cool. What's the warranty like on this? Do you run a shop or are you affiliated to Aircooled?
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