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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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Type 3 Front Seat Adjuster Cams
Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Hey Terry,
You downloaded those pictures ๐คช
You downloaded those pictures ๐คช
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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Finally... the seat cams...
They work great!
Working out how to get the seat out took almost as long as fitting the cams. For those who've never done it there is a small tab on the tunnel side slider that once you push it down allows the seat to slide forward into the footwell and slide right off the runners! No bolts, spanners, easy as!
My cams were pretty worn, mainly because a prvious owner had turned them so hard that they were jammed into one spot. they had also wired the seat back catch so that it could be flipped forward without having to use the latch...๐
They work great!
Working out how to get the seat out took almost as long as fitting the cams. For those who've never done it there is a small tab on the tunnel side slider that once you push it down allows the seat to slide forward into the footwell and slide right off the runners! No bolts, spanners, easy as!
My cams were pretty worn, mainly because a prvious owner had turned them so hard that they were jammed into one spot. they had also wired the seat back catch so that it could be flipped forward without having to use the latch...๐
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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The Cams were pretty worn as you can see in these pics.
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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This is how I dismantled them...
First unclip the spring that tension the shaft to the seat base.
Gently tapped out the roll pin on the adjustment knob (nearest to the door side of the seat). Bert tells me it's a 3mm drift. I didn't have the right size so squared of the end of a long 3mm nail and gently tapped it out.
Do the same with the small end cap on the tunnel side of the seat.
There should be a small plastic bush that the seat back arm rides on the shaft. Take these out gently. Mine are pretty worn but I doubt I'll ever get new ones so I put them back in. Something could be used as a replacement I'm sure.
I couldn't quite slide the seat back off the shaft so gently tapped out the roll pins from both cams and then tapped the shaft towards the adjustment knob end till I could get the back off.
First unclip the spring that tension the shaft to the seat base.
Gently tapped out the roll pin on the adjustment knob (nearest to the door side of the seat). Bert tells me it's a 3mm drift. I didn't have the right size so squared of the end of a long 3mm nail and gently tapped it out.
Do the same with the small end cap on the tunnel side of the seat.
There should be a small plastic bush that the seat back arm rides on the shaft. Take these out gently. Mine are pretty worn but I doubt I'll ever get new ones so I put them back in. Something could be used as a replacement I'm sure.
I couldn't quite slide the seat back off the shaft so gently tapped out the roll pins from both cams and then tapped the shaft towards the adjustment knob end till I could get the back off.
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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I slid the shaft out by knocking one cam along towards the middle until the shaft would clear seat frame and slide it out. Make sure to note which cam goes which end!
The cams should slide off the shaft without much effort.
The new cams look brilliant alongside the old flogged out ones.
Assembly is basically the reverse of dismantling.
Make sure everything lines up as you go. Cams are on the right way round and in line with each other.
And put the springs back on the right way!
The cams should slide off the shaft without much effort.
The new cams look brilliant alongside the old flogged out ones.
Assembly is basically the reverse of dismantling.
Make sure everything lines up as you go. Cams are on the right way round and in line with each other.
And put the springs back on the right way!
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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I made sure everything was functioning properly before adding grease.
As has been said before by Bert and Nils...
TAKE THE WEIGHT OFF THE SEAT BACK WHEN ADJUSTING YOUR BACKREST!
This will limit the wear and these new cams will out last the car.
Thanks Bert for getting the ball rolling on these and Thanks Nils for making it happen!
Rating... Bloody Brilliant! ๐๐
As has been said before by Bert and Nils...
TAKE THE WEIGHT OFF THE SEAT BACK WHEN ADJUSTING YOUR BACKREST!
This will limit the wear and these new cams will out last the car.
Thanks Bert for getting the ball rolling on these and Thanks Nils for making it happen!
Rating... Bloody Brilliant! ๐๐
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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GREASE...
Regularly!
Regularly!
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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Now its time to do the other one and get some trimming done....
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Terry, great detail ....... makes my post look wimpy on what I did ๐
I can see the slight refinement Nils did to the cams before he sent yours = helped with fit & function ๐
I can see the slight refinement Nils did to the cams before he sent yours = helped with fit & function ๐
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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Please don't look at that photo of the seat and all the junk in the background!
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Yes, parts of my yard make Steptoe and Son look tidy!
But there is some good gear in there, and a free dump day coming up!
This weekend's mission is to get the Notch back out to the road, and clean it up before Day of the Volkswagen.
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Yes, parts of my yard make Steptoe and Son look tidy!
But there is some good gear in there, and a free dump day coming up!
This weekend's mission is to get the Notch back out to the road, and clean it up before Day of the Volkswagen.
nils Fahrvergnugen
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Hi Terry, thanks for the write up props! Great to see they went in as planned.
and thanks again to Bert for being a driving force and r+d man for these.
and thanks again to Bert for being a driving force and r+d man for these.
Quit calling rust patina
wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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After looking at Berts my original ones don't look too bad. Drove with the new ones today. How good is it to be able to use the back of the seat!
Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Luxury ๐wombatventures wrote:After looking at Berts my original ones don't look too bad. Drove with the new ones today. How good is it to be able to use the back of the seat!
Terry, I was surprised @ how screwed mine were - fully explained why the backrest stayed in position even though the knob turned - it's so much comfortable now to have the backrest in position ๐๐๐
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Came across this exploded parts view of a front seat - Items 6 & 7 are the seat adjuster cams
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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That's Cool Bert.
Looks like an early Lowback seat. Extra retaining screw for the Adjuster Knob, doesn't show roll pins holding the other end either. Seat back retainer has a different mechanism as well. What was the diagram in?
Looks like an early Lowback seat. Extra retaining screw for the Adjuster Knob, doesn't show roll pins holding the other end either. Seat back retainer has a different mechanism as well. What was the diagram in?
nils Fahrvergnugen
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Next batch of 10 pairs ordered and will be landing about the 20th of March,
Prices will be the same, if you are sitting on the fence about getting a some now is the time! register your interest at nilsbirkmann@hotmail.com or SMS me at O400 592 25O
Prices will be the same, if you are sitting on the fence about getting a some now is the time! register your interest at nilsbirkmann@hotmail.com or SMS me at O400 592 25O
Quit calling rust patina
Morts Casual Dubber
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Hi Nils, text sent.nils wrote:Next batch of 10 pairs ordered and will be landing about the 20th of March,
Prices will be the same, if you are sitting on the fence about getting a some now is the time! register your interest at nilsbirkmann@hotmail.com or SMS me at O400 592 25O
Cheers, Morts
Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Hi Terry,wombatventures wrote:That's Cool Bert.
Looks like an early Lowback seat. Extra retaining screw for the Adjuster Knob, doesn't show roll pins holding the other end either. Seat back retainer has a different mechanism as well. What was the diagram in?
Found this by chance - it's in a 88MB Body parts file for Type 3 I found - part numbers provided also. Lots of other sections also ๐คช
If you want to download it (site not happy if you view on line and state download & save to view) I can send you the link via email or PM.
Screw on knob think you'll find is for a cover plate - chrome ๐
Cheers & beers
Bert
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Heard this morning that all 10 seats have been spoken for ๐ now that didn't take long ๐nils wrote:Next batch of 10 pairs ordered and will be landing about the 20th of March,
Prices will be the same, if you are sitting on the fence about getting a some now is the time! register your interest at nilsbirkmann@hotmail.com or SMS me at O400 592 25O
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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That means 19 Type 3s will have working seats soon!
Brilliant!
PM it to me Bert, Sounds good.
Brilliant!
PM it to me Bert, Sounds good.
Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Ok Terry, leave it with me ๐
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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I understand that the 3rd production run for these is being put together ....... interested then get in early as 2nd production run went in 36 hours.
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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3 hour drive to Adelaide Friday. ๐
3 hour drive home Sunday. ๐
Type 3 owners at Day of the Volkswagen 2! Us and a Square. told the young lad about the adjusters. He'll have to save up.
Notch ran brilliant for a change... amazing what a proper tune will do!
3 hour drive home Sunday. ๐
Type 3 owners at Day of the Volkswagen 2! Us and a Square. told the young lad about the adjusters. He'll have to save up.
Notch ran brilliant for a change... amazing what a proper tune will do!
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Sunday last i drove 2 hrs to Toowoomba, 4 hrs @ Dubs on the HIll and then 2 hr drive home - Seat was so comfortable and the Fastback loved the long run @ highway cruising speed ๐
Notch looks good Terry ๐
Notch looks good Terry ๐
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard
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I'll swap you for that drive Bert. Your roads are better along that stretch. Barrier Highway/ Main North Road from here to Adelaide is like ocean waves with wind chop added in! Now the motors running well and the seats are reclining, I think it's time I looked at the suspension and steering.
We drove the Notch home from Queensland back in 2014. Sunshine Coast to Toowoomba via Kilcoy, Somerset Dam, Esk, Ravensbourne. Fun drive, plenty of corners to make Bec Queasy!
We drove the Notch home from Queensland back in 2014. Sunshine Coast to Toowoomba via Kilcoy, Somerset Dam, Esk, Ravensbourne. Fun drive, plenty of corners to make Bec Queasy!
nils Fahrvergnugen
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Quit calling rust patina
Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Seat Adjuster Cams still available - contact nils with your commitment to buy to get on the list for the next order ๐๐๐
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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After the Dubs @ the Abbey a couple of weeks back these will fit up to and including 1972 Type3 seats - refer to above exploded view picture and IF unsure ask the question and post a picture of your seat to confirm as close as we possibly can.
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Fossil Son of Jim - Creator of Good
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Type3 owners ..... these are still available and ordered when minimum quantity of 10 seats (sets/pairs) is received by Nils.
In the current edition #54 of VWMA there is an article on these on Page 32 ๐
In the current edition #54 of VWMA there is an article on these on Page 32 ๐
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