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Grasack Seriously Crusin Dubber

121 posts · joined Jan 2012 ·

#1044769
Looking for 8 x Type 3 standard lug bolts (longer thread than beetle lug bolts)

Required because I have installed type 3 rear brakes.

Can pm me or contact mob # 0413845298

Thanks

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044771
I may be wrong
ive had many Type 3s over the years and dont remember seeing longer wheel bolts

Its does make sense what your saying especially with the later 2 piece rear hubs and drums
Good luck with your search

I suggest that you remove one hub and drum then fit a wheel with a Beetle wheel bolt or what ever you have and see how far it protrudes through
Safety length would be 1 1/2 threads protruding

I have a box of wheel bolts and will check them to see if any are different
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#1044773
Part number is 251 601 139 M14 x 19mm

They are the same for 12v Beetle and T3 Kombi.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044774
You could also buy the screw in M14 studs that Nice Products sell and then use Kombi wheels nuts, much easier when changing wheels

hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#1044776
I have run Type 3 rear drums (4 x 130mm) for many years without issue using the original Beetle wheel bolts which are 37mm long overall and have a 17mm head. I always tighten the bolts with a torque wrench
HOWEVER I just checked as Dave suggested to the OP and found that the bolts only just protrude through the back of the hub when done up tight but not torqued. Definitely not 1 1/2 threads protruding! And that is with OE drums!
Now to add to the problem, my new Brazilian drums (a brand recommended to me as being good quality) are around 6mm thick on the wheel face (OE are around 3mm thick)
So I strongly suspect (and hope) Type 3 wheel bolts will be longer than Beetle ones. Watching this thread with interest!

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#1044777
hulbyw wrote:So I strongly suspect (and hope) Type 3 wheel bolts will be longer than Beetle ones. Watching this thread with interest!
There is only one part number listed on ETKA,
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044778
checked my wheel bolts today

68 on there all the same length as per Phils check of the parts listing
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#1044779
Interesting. My Type 3 brakes are on a '68, however the OP didn't specify what year he wanted the wheel bolts for. Maybe wide 5 are different?

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#1044780
hulbyw wrote:Interesting. My Type 3 brakes are on a '68, however the OP didn't specify what year he wanted the wheel bolts for. Maybe wide 5 are different?
Wide 5 are a smaller dia bolt.

REDKG Officially Full-On Dubber

327 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044781
Early wide type 3 brakes use same bolts as earlier beetle, as fitted to my KG. Aftermarket wheels may need longer bolts or stud and nuts. Later had larger dia bolts.

Grasack Seriously Crusin Dubber

121 posts · joined Jan 2012 ·

#1044782
Thanks Guys for replies
I have new drums put on and they are the thicker type as hullbyvw suggested.
I am running after market sunraysia type wheels with 6mm metal plates and standard beetle bolts do not give good purchase, only 3-4 full turns where as standard wheels take 7-8 turns.
I boought some bolts from Lugnuts Aust that were longer but they only have 17mm heads (later VW lugnuts I think) and they are 2mm diam smaller than original bolts at the head of the rounded area (therefore less purchase on the wheel
See photos attached and you can see the wheels I have on the car, the difference in the purchase of the nuts on the wheels, the difference in the lengths of the bolts and the position the bolt would would purchase on the hub. I would much prefer the bolt extended out past the back of the hub for more strength.

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044785
convert to studs using as per Steve suggested
i had similar on my 65 bug


You could also buy the screw in M14 studs that Nice Products sell and then use Kombi wheels nuts, much easier when changing wheels
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044786
Are wide 5 Bay Window wheels bolts any longer?

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#1044792
You need to find out what the taper is on the wheels first. Those two bolts have different tapers.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

Grasack Seriously Crusin Dubber

121 posts · joined Jan 2012 ·

#1044793
Thanks again for your ideas. I was under the impression that type 3 bolts were longer than beetle ones. But I was mistaken
However I will end this topic and go and check out the above options

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#1044794
That's good - I'll be able to sleep now...😉
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1044795
Greg i seem to remember something about a rear brake drum a few years ago
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


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http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


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