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Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#107056
I'm heading off for a major heart transplant for Hoobie, up at Coffs Harbour (yes, it's Pobjoy territory 😉)
any guesses what's going in?
I'll take a whole bunch of photos (if i remember) and post them up to see what happens when you abuse a 'base' 1916cc engine for five years or so. Hope also to get some photos of the rebuild and painting crap that I'm cramming into the space of a week. engine only.
😀
woohoo 😀:P
let sleeping dubs lie

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#107070
hey
are you coming to coffs??? we should catch up!!!!
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#109383
Pete, guess what came from America today ?????

I will give you a hint, its made from aluminum😀😀

another 2 coming very soon:o


lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#109396
Ile bite a pair of replica TWIN TOWERS,:o

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#109447
😀😀 good guess but not right !

another hint: you can build strong motors using them 😎


KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#109457
Aluminium case halves :thumb

I find it easier to start with a type IV block :P
Kruizin Kol

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#109642
Waiting ...........

waiting ................

Come on Pete, how long does it take to fit a 1916 POBJOY - MORE POWER WITH WARRANTY?

:bounce

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#109643
phoned Pobjoy on Friday, he was still there. Pulled out his Base 1916cc then fitted the steroids. He had to replace fuel lines etc and paint parts, I think he left Coffs yesterday !:thumb

I know he will have a big smile 😀

One more Aluminum cased Pobjoy Steroids hits the road 😎


Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#111630
HOLY $*&#@%$!!:o

Coupla interesting things about my transplantation....
1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc in my quest for even more power out of the humble VW. I asked Stan to let me watch and take some photos and stuff. he kinda shrugged and resumed talking again in his inimitable way. Upon dismantling it I felt like a criminal... it had practically no signs of wear at all!! bits like crank, camshaft, followers, heads (beautiful condition!!) conrods, the case itself was perfect, there was no coppery shit showing through the bearings, oil pump had some swirl marks where the gears touched the coverplate, carbies (look like new with a shot of carby cleaner)
and the clincher....

the freaky thing....

94mm pistons and barrels. perfect. With a dial bore gauge they came out more round (by a whole half a thou 😉) than the brand new barrels out of the box. the old rings were so good that a 15thou feeler guage was held vertically without sliding when you let go. A TIGHT fit. scrapey pressure tight. I mean what the ?!?!? I could barely believe it. Which is why the old pistons and cylinders are now on my new steroids motor, with new rings because it seems silly not to replace them while the motor's apart. After a quick hone it was obvious that there was almost no sign of where the piston had travelled either, the hone marks ran full length on the first turn. what does that mean? they're not wearing. thank god for BBQ plate 😉 I have pics, for the doubting thomases out there, but they're awaiting development.

2. (yep I just made it to 2) I now have to learn how to drive all over again. seriously. After the frantic final fitment and the hassles with meeting the pink slip (rust problems hehehe) I jumped in and almost shat myself. The torque is almost uncontrollable, with a few bunny hops making me feel like a learner driver again. The new tricky heavy duty clutch has me confused; ultra light foot pressure, super heavy engagement. so you drive around laughing like an idiot. Which I am for not resisting the urge to blow off a P plater commodore while i'm sposed to be running it in. don't tell Stan. He's already pissed at me for not checking the work the muffler shop did on my extractors. they were shocking. not only did they weld the J-pipes on (making it f$#%$% hard to get them off and on) I had one 22mm exhaust gasket and one 35mm one on the other side :o NOT HAPPY JAN. Also the ends were inherently flawed as the weld on flange was narrower than the pipe! gaaaah!! Stan buzzed them out with a grinder but he was seriously unhappy with the flow. next item on the shopping list... suitably matched high flow exhaust system.

I'm not game to ring the revs up too high yet, and as the exhaust is so restrictive it probably wouldn't be wise anyway. I'm stoked. Blown away. Grinning like an idiot.
The power of this baby is obscene. guess I'm been blabbing long enough....
have to get those pics developed.... might go for a drive 😉
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce
let sleeping dubs lie

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#111633
So we'll see it at the Sydney dyno day??????????????????

Don't be afraid to rev it. Fresh is best!

Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#111642
:bounce:bounce:bounce YOU LUCKY BASTARD...:bounce:bounce:bounce
😀
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#111643
What ^ said🙁

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#111644
didn't feel that lucky after 2 1/2 hours sleep before going to work at 7:30 😀
but hey, let the milo tin exhaust brigade slaying begin... when it's run in and has the right muffler/ exhaust hooked up. turns out that anyone can now have the same setup as me with a warranty (it's a full blown race engine... so that's kinda remarkable) but I'm happy to have one of the fastest little sleepers in town. so HAH!
Problem: I have to improve the handling before I wrap it around a pole, or drive through someone's living room $$. Also, my tires read 88 on the durometer :O translated: very hard, not much grip. To quote some dude: "How fast do you want to go? Speed costs money."
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce
let sleeping dubs lie

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#111690
Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?

You'd be running 44IDFs no doubt. Have you had a blocked idle jet yet? I found that the Dellorto-type aircleaner assembly is good for stopping rubbish getting in and blocking the jets.

CYA, CT
esratrams

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#111700
sweet 🙂 actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#111722
bit of bad luck we didnt get to meet up peter!!!! i live in sawtell just south of coffs woulda been good to catch up!!!
hope the motor goes all well sounds like a great engine!!!
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#111730
Doug Sweetman wrote:sweet 🙂 actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?

ummm he does doug. This is Stan's problem, everyone thinks he only builds 1916's, many wild type 4 motors as well as porsche motors have come out of his workshop. Its just that the 1916cc is the best allrounder for him to promote.:thumb


Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#111734
fullnoise wrote:Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?


CYA, CT
New "steroids" cam CT, the 8000rpm screamer 😀 same as Greg ward and practically the same as mine :thumb

Heads are the new ported (by CB) 044's.


Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#111742
Hey Pete, I hope none of my engine parts went missing last week, you know
Sydney bound.😀
You know why 94's are shit? Because they last too long ie. less rebuilds!!
By the way if your exhaust is restricted and your impressed with the performance, than your gonna shit your pants when you fix it. I know, been there done that.

Andrew Grace

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#111817
LOL Andrew, I saw many bits marked with your name while I unobtrusively poked around, but he wouldn't give them to me 😀 I tried to shoehorn the massive aeroplane motor in the back of his workshop into my backseat, but he caught me trying to saw the prop in half to make it fit 😉
and i THINK I'll stick to the restrictive exhaust for a bit, while I get used to the power, also fundage doesn't allow for a merged system as yet, so it's a moot point. I'm going back up to coffs in a couple of weeks to get a professional retorque and valve adjustment, so people along the way let me know your details, and I'll drop in and bore you shitless with bragging stories about how I watched it being built. boing boing boing :P😀:thumb:bounce:bounce
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#111881
1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc

Hey Pete, didn't u say that u couldn't do the drags the other week cause u had endfloat problems???

Jak

I'm on the Central Coast, so u can call in here first if u like for your first revive survive break

PS comforting to hear about the 94s
:thumb:thumb
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#111966
Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!

Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!😎


Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#112048
Damn you Craig, DAMN YOU! *bides time*
I guess I have another few hundred K's and a few adjustments to go, then. Yep Jak I did have 6 thou of endfloat, but I couldn't figure out where it was from?!!? after dismantling it :jesus
Turns out I could have raced the bugger, but I was playing it safe (<----- overly cautious it seems) what tyre softness have you got, btw Jak?

"... so then I says, well what is 'biding' anyways...."
let sleeping dubs lie

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#112054
Get a new exhaust ASAP Pete, from what Stan said on the phone your's was strangling the base 1916 , so I hardly think you are doing the new one any favours !😠


Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#112055
jeez Craig I've only been back in town for a couple of days 😀 (gimme some money and I'll get the exhaust 😉)
It's obvious to me that we need more biding here..:P
let sleeping dubs lie

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#112056
looks like you'll have to drive to Hornsby then ! Maybe I could swap an exhaust for some parts !


jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#112062
I've got Falkan ST115 tyres Pete, they are pretty good & pretty cheap, it's the best street tyre that Falkan make, but I have found they are limited on the track. They are fantastic in the wet too.
The prices start around 100 for 15's 200 for 16's & up to 260 or so for 17's.
Hope this helps.
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#112098
thats a great price Jak, they looked to be working well at Eastern creek.


VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#112113
Craig Torrens wrote:Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!


Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!😎
And an oil change.... Then drive it like you stole it!

Peter, do you have Hoodjaks or anything on your car?
Pay your debts, CxxT