Damn Chris, that must've been a scarey ride!! 😎
Kruizin Kol
Not really scarey at all. Scariest bit was looking at the temp gauge, think it was 230F, and took a long time to come down.
Downloaded the calculator. It says only 180. It was a lot closer when I worked it out with the tyre diameter. even if I am mistaken and they were 65 series tyres its still low.
Pretty sure I worked out 195 at the time. Very disapointed at 180. 🙁
[Edited on 13-11-2002 by amazer]
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Couldn't just let this thread slide into the oblivion.
Has anyone got the fugures yet??
I heard a rumour there is/was a beetle in Brisbane (owned by a fella by the name of Craig), daily driven, that holds the mantle.
Anyone ....
ANYONE??
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Craig's beetle was absolutley immaculate, but I think the fast it ever went was around a 12.6. It was on the cover of an old VW scene magazine.
Wes -
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Baja Wes wrote:Craig's beetle was absolutley immaculate, but I think the fast it ever went was around a 12.6. It was on the cover of an old VW scene magazine.
I guess the best thing about this thread is it gives us hell-heads something to aim for
😎 :P
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!
As far as i was aware - Leigh's car was the fastest street registered by way of the Gene Berg Trophys at the VW Nationals....
Dave - have you found Leighs exact times yet?!!?
Yeah only problems is that most of the times on the Berg Trophy are for 1/8 mile.
bit hard to compare with 1/4 mile stuff but hey wait till mid next year when the new track is up n running.
So do you know what the 1/8th mile time was for Leigh?!?
Man, this is like pulling teeth.
I was obviously unaware of how complicated it is to identify the quickest street-registered car.
Please keep lookin into it Dave, we are waiting with baited breath.
Steve
VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa
The title so far seems to be held by :bounce
Keith Haeusler
[My old 56 turbo ran 12.1 at 116 last time at Eastern creek on everyday 205 street tyres using full muffler and unleaded fuel. I think the 1/8th mile time was 7.8 to 8.0 at 90mph. This was my only car so it was driven 7 days to week to work etc. It was engineered and insured with shannons.]
:bounce:bounce:bounce
Does anyone have any actual time's to claim the forum title ? :vader
Fasted stated time so far is
My old 56 turbo ran 12.1 at 116 last time at Eastern creek on everyday 205 street tyres using full muffler and unleaded fuel. I think the 1/8th mile time was 7.8 to 8.0 at 90mph. This was my only car so it was driven 7 days to week to work etc. It was engineered and insured with shannons.
Keith Haeusler
Can anyone beat that with an actual timed run ?:vader
Maybe this year 😉
Well you all ask for it, so heres a list of all the winners straight off the Berg Trophy over the past few years, in event order.
Most events were held at Oran Park in Sydney, which in the early days was a distance of 850 feet, which means nothing to anyone.
In or around 1993 I convinced the NSWHRA to reduce the track length to a standard 1/8 mile 660 feet, so as the times would be representative to other tracks around the world.
I have to check my OTHER records as some of these may be adjusted or added to.
I hope you all can calculate your cars performance
In the early years of this trophy the STREET REGISTERED rules were vague to say the least. Jeff Unwin and Mr Berg discussed and determined the rules as such. These have and will be published each year prior to each event.
NO CORRESPONDANCE will be entered into.
Gene Berg Fastest street Registered VW
1/4mile = 440 yards or 1320 feet
1/8mile = 220 yards or 660 feet
all speed reading have been converted to MPH for similarity
Canberra action 13 Mar 1989 1/4mile 13.60 99.4mph Joanne Smith
VW Nats 14 Apr 1990 850ft 10.16 86.04mph Jeff Unwin
ClubVW day 1 Dec 1990 850ft 10.03 87.37mph Jeff Unwin
VW Nats 1 Apr 1991 850ft 9.78 90.18mph Paul Zanello
Club VW day 7 Dec 1991 850ft 8.77 79.71mph Richard Holzl
VW Nats 18 Apr 1992 850ft 8.69 83.33mph Richard Holzl
Willowbank jam 7 Jun 1992 1/4mile 14.12 95.54mph Lance Adam
VW nats 12 Apr 1993 850ft 11.14 79.01mph James McKinnon
3 JUNE 1993 TRACK LENGTH ALTERED FROM 850 TO 660 FEET 1/8 MILE
Club VW day 27Nov 1993 1/8mile 8.92 76.60mph Jeff Unwin
VW Nats 2 Apr 1994 1/8mile 8.76 78.32mph Keith Haeusler
Willowbank jam 1994 1/4mile 13.18 103mph Jeff Unwin
VW Nats 15 Apr 1995 1/8mile 9.10 74.78mph Keith Haeusler
Willowbank jam 1995 1/4mile 13.35 100.4mph Craig Paton
VW Nats 6 Apr 1996 1/8mile TBA
Willowbank jam 1996 1/4mile 12.82 102.76mph Craig Paton
VW Nats 17 Apr 1997 1/8mile 8.65 77.98mph Mike Kristen
VW Nats 11 Apr 1998 1/8mile 8.95 74.56mph Jan Cook
VW Nats 3 Apr 1999 1/8mile TBA
VW Nats 22 Apr 2000 1/8mile 8.60 80.35mph Leigh Harris
VW Nats 14 Apr 2001 1/8mile 8.56 74.65mph Leigh Harris
VW Nats 30 Mar 2002 1/8mile 8.80 79.66mph Leigh Harris
[Edited on 27-12-2002 by vw54]
There is a guy in Melbourne that has a street car with a US style turbo bug in full street trim that has done a 10.5 I believe!....I think there was a story on the guy in a fast fours mag a couple of years back...I'll see if I can track it down!...
Yeah the REAL turbo engine is still not together. The hatch job did a 13.5 the blew up!....
Dave the Doc on adelaide is quick but I think Dave Prior's bug in adelaide is quicker....And Arron Britcher's Black Squareback Panel is on the road now.....Now that has to be a real contender! He hasn't run it at the drags yet...Maybe next year!
Yeah ive seen Arrons S/Back i dont think he will wanna drag it, very nice.
10.5 for full street trim I would like to believe that, but perhaps he was dreaming of a time.:alien
It's actually true Dave, I've got the madazine & i've also seen the video, I think that it was 10.1 @ 140mph!!!
Gotta see it to beleive it!
Jak
Thanks for digging up that info on Previous times.
Regards,Glenn>
10's are believable in an early bodied beetle. BUT - would have to have 500hp or therabouts, indestructible tranny, nice set of slicks, excellent hook up and a large pair of you - know - whats.....
Sad to hear about the engine Humpty... look forward to seeing the new one together.
Any ideas on when the next NoH20 Drag Nite is going to be ?
Yeah Doug I agree with the early body and horse power etcetc
But from the description you have just written, It does not sound like its a FULL daily driver average street car.
Thats why the Berg Rules were written.
Jak who got the tape on this 10s car ?? i would like to see a copy.
Sofar Leigh has the trophy I guess...Unless someone can track down that guy in Melbourne...Much ezr for you guys on the east coast!
Doug....If you have about 300hp & the right ratios & you know how to drive...you can get into the 10's...I've seen loads of cars do it in the US back in the early 90's when I was living over there!
I reckon another drag night or 2 will happen early in the new year....I won't be racing though...Those heads I bought off Hamo (you remember them Keith?) all those years ago need a tidy up!...The engines coming out in the new year...As soon as the SVX/Transporter is finished!
Are you guys still going on about this. I was here months ago when this started.
If you must know then I'll tell you but you will all be pissed off with all that research and time hunting you've all been doing.
"Herbie The Love Bug" is the fastest beetle.
Now, next topic🙂.
[Edited on 20-12-2002 by The_Bronze.]
Bronze.
Rathmines, Lake Macquarie, NSW.
There is a Turbocharged street beetle in america that runs 10's, i have a video of it
Jon
Seen it before, but yeah, it's pretty awesome! :thumb Not Aussie though.
Kruizin Kol
Study the times, people.
Something fishy goin' on here. The discrepancies are just too great to be believable.
What's the story with "TBA" results. Was the trophy won or not. If not, why not?
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35MPG on 101.3kPa
I thought it was one of the Muller brothers in their lethal baby blue beetle with a 2110 with IDa's that year, I think they ran a 9.1 or similar?
Jak
For instance,
1990 850' 10.03 @ 87.37mph
1992 850' 8.69 @ 83.33mph
1.34 seconds quicker but 4.04 mph slower.
And 2000 660' 8.6 @ 80.35mph
2001 660' 8.56 @ 74.65mph
0.04 seconds quicker but 5.7mph slower.
Jon, that video is awesome. :bounce
[Edited on 21-12-2002 by 56astro]
[Edited on 27-12-2002 by 56astro]
VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa
yes from memory it was a muuler who won on one of those years. Got to dig out another list i have to find the times as theres no name plate on the trophy for those years.
yes that was the year the track distance was changed from 850 to 660 feet. also got to find that letter ... and by the way theres nuthing fishy.... :beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer:beer
Found the letter i wrote on 3rd June 1993 to the NSWHRA re the track length at Sydneys Oran Park.
I wrote a letter to ask them to reduce the track distance for racing from 850 feet to the standard 1/8 mile length of 660 feet.
Of course they did this and we raced a standard distance after this date...
I remember reading a UK vw mag a year or two ago that featured a light blue 1968+ body shaped vw that had a Twin Turbo'd type 4 engine fitted.
The car was radically engineered, and featured porsche 944 brakes all around(the owner was a german machinest).
The car was assembled very light weight, but did have a full roll cage fitted. Estimated weight of about 820-850kg.
I think I remember the article said the car had a maximum power output of approx. 440-480 hp, and that it was impossible to drive when the road was wet.
If there were ever street registered car that could easily break 10 seconds on the 1/4, this was the car.
Of course its not and aussie beetle...
IF Im not mistaken the car was that of Volkomen Art's! I have seen that car and it is bloody awesome! Couldnt tell you times, but its an early with 1500 guards on it! It used to be Black, and now it is black with blue doors! I believe he also has a Scat case for it!!!!!
Cheers! N!