Let's get the terminology right to start with.
There is no such thing as the "old beetle"
There is THE Beetle, & the new beetle.
The beetle is a design classic, one of the most instantly recognised cars on the face of the earth, along with the mini, the 2cv & of course the other VW masterpiece, the Kombi.
Then there is the "new" beetle.
This post was originally about comparing the two. You can't. They have nothing in common except the VW badge & even that isn't interchangeable.
You'd be better off comparing the new beetle with any rice burner, because at the end of the day they have more in common with my wife's mazoodar than they do with any VW in my collection.
Obviously those who drive them like them, but then if you don't like your car, you piss it off. That's common sense.
But get used to the idea that there are those of us who don't like the new beetle & will say so every time this sort of subject arises.
But it's not a matter of not liking YOUR car, it's not liking THE car.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
Its good to see some people saying that new is as cool as old... Its a shame to see people say that old has more soul... Yeah, newbies arent as "enthusiastic" as oldies, and dont get involved in club scenes and the like, but a lot of us waterpumpers are happy to encompass the entire scene... Thats my gripe...
I rode in an R twice and they are all the reviews have stated. Esp the ones that say the R is better than a STI up high!!!
I have driven both old and new, and I would go for new cos of the creature comforts like air, and cos they come as an optional turbo, and they move with the correct software. I really didnt like where the pillar started on them, though. Made for a cavernous blind spot.
I love looking at olds, but couldnt own one. A type 3 is different, though. All three are impractical for lugging gear. Hence the GTI.
Steve. Classic 85 Mk2 2dr GTI 8v Optioned sunroof and 15"BBS RS alloys. Koni yellow and H&R, Balanced bottom end, flowed top end, Neuspeed 268 cam.
Hey all, firstly I just want to clarify that I didnt want people to compare 'THE' Beetle to the 'NEW' beetle as in whats better because I already said I love them both and would be happy with either! I just wanted to know your personal experiances, and what you think of each personally. That comment was for Spook. You don't like the newer bugs? Thats ok, you don't have to. And if I get a new one and people want to tell me they don't like them that's fine as well. But I do think it would be nice for us all to share the vw experiance without any of that 'snobbery'.
Is that your lil beast Y2K? It's gorgeous 🙂 How long ago did you get it? See I think that has just as much uniqueness as the older bug.
And $2.63 homebrand baja I think I have seen your awesome beast around ippy mall and the other day at the petrol station in leichardt, was that you? Awesome VW.
We are lucky enough to have a NB turbo which doesnt have a rattle goes like stink and handles like a gokart cost about $35k with a bit of negotiating - great value also have a bay window kombi with a nice donk from stan - cant beat driving over the front wheels and that big sreeing wheel love it also a 65 notch -what a third gear for traffic
Rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd
He he he, I love all this old V's new shit. I just sit back read the posts and wonder wtf are some of you on ????
This is a Aussie Vee Dubbers forum, for all VOLKSWAGEN lovers, please don't forget that people..... peace man.
All cars have there pro's and con's, test drive both and make your mind up and don't let anyone try to persuade you different.
Enjoy your choice
Cheers🙂
STEALTH
the water pumpers have late model style. thats about it..
but they dont vee dub dub dub dub dub du dub du dub dub........
cant even fit a hand crank nut to them for christs sake.
its like comparing a 67 corrolla against a 04 corrolla or a mini cooper against a 04 bmw mini... same in name only.... totally diff cars for totally diff purposes.
You really have to look at it this way. Everybody has individual tastes and affections, or dislikes, for certain styles and makes of cars, obviously they like one or more particular car's better than another. If this was not the case, then we would all be driving the same generic boring block with four wheels. Like Spook said, if you don't like it you don't like it. It dose not mean that you are disrespecting the owner, causing intentional hurt, or saying it is a "bad" car, it's just personal taste.
Any car that is loved by the owner is a worthy car, and I would never say to anyone their car is a heap of crap, I just tell them its a wonderful car, but I prefer my older one's!
And the new Beetle will be old one day!
Rob...😎
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft
hehehe, Aussie Blkbug you sound pretty cool mate. I have had an interesting read these past few days reading everybodies comments! I know that it comes down to my choice and no one will affect my choice at all. I figure that if I was sure about getting an old bug to do up I would have bought one about a month ago. So I am pretty set in getting a new one and in the future looking at restoring an older one. Coz I am crazy bought all vw's. And I really like how you put it Robo, very wise 🙂
Thanx everyone!! xxxoooxxxoo
Subject: New beetle versus the old.
The dictionary defines "versus" as to compare; to weigh one against the other (often in contest).
In my understanding of the english language, that is exactly what you asked for.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
Pinklady_bug
Yep thats my old 'new beetle' in my avatar. Had a head-on in a Lancer so it was time for a bug. Bought her from Melbourne in November 2001, ex demo. They were very hard to find back then. Later (this year) decided that i was finacially stable enough to upgrade. Got the black turbo back in March(04) and have never looked back. You only live once, enjoy it as much as you can. I am. It just means that clothes shopping and movies etc have to be saved for a few weeks.
Hey nbturbo and aussie BLKBUG- Im coming to Melbourne in early August, anything happening down their then? nbturbo, how far are you(Whyalla) from Adelaide.
Hey Steve isnt the R just the coolest. Al has thrown me his keys twice, i havent been game yet. But next time for sure.
Pinklady good luck and congratulations on your decision.
Happy NEWBUGGIN':kiss
Y2K
Maya
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
It's like comparing a record player to a CD player. Do you like the sound of records, such as the cool crackling sound? Do you mind turning it over after each side?
Playing vinyl records requires more work but the sound has more character and warmth. Bad side is the needle wears out and the records wear out.
CDs on the other hand are relatively noiseless and maintenance free, but characterless. Much less wear on the laser and none on the actual CDs.
I have an old cofee machine, an old turntable with old valve amps, an old beetle and an old wife. Call me old fashioned. (Oh and my house and dog are old too). This joke is getting old... You get my point.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
When my NB turbo was working okay (rare), I really liked it. When it wasn't, well it pissed me off. I got rid of it before the warranty ran out and started costing me more than just a lot of dealer visits and the occasional flat bed tow.
I wish it hadn't been a complete and utter lemony lemon as I really liked it.
Andrew
Y2K- 400kms from Adelaide.Only thing VW happening over here B4 Xmas will be the VW Enthusiasts show in early November-includes a drag meet on the Saturday night.
Hi Spook!! Wow darl you really need to take a chill pill or have a holiday coz I didn't think someone would take it like that. Seriously dude, move on!!
Thankx Y2K 😀
:sandrine
Hi Pink Lady, yes Y2K & myself will have to get together with you on the All Girl Dub Day.
See Post.
Would be good to meet you.
Judy😉
59 Microbus Kombi (MERCY)
64 Microbus Kombi (CHANNON)
Hi Judy, that'd be great to meet you and Y2K and catch up with you vw gals! 🙂 I'll have a look at the post because that would be heaps of fun!
[Edited on 15-6-2004 by pinklady_bug]
nbturbo wrote:mscabrio-What colour is Veronica?
Veronica is aquarius blue.
🙂see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
here is a pic of mscabrios ride
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
How could anybody not fall madly in love with Veronica.Another magnificent example of what Volkswagen has to offer us. Excellent choice MSCABRIO.Did you get auto or manual? Hope you enjoy her as much as we enjoy our Turbo.
she got the manual
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
That is beautiful!! oooh i want one 😀
Hi Everyone,
I don't get on here often so when I saw this post i just had to put my 2 cents in!
Ive had my new bettle (his name is Doug) for nearly 2 years now and absolutely love it! I have always loved beetles but the fact that i know next to nothing about cars has always made me hesitant to get an older one. When the new ones came out i just new i had to have one, starts first time and with air conditioning...what more could you want?
I know alot of people have different opinions but its just about what suits your lifestyle...or why not have both? Not only is my beetle a great car its also opened up a whole new circle of friends and its even scored me a man (didnt get that in my barina).
Good luck with your choice pinklady!
Take Care
Mel
:thumb
Mrs Herbie, Is that Doug ?????? he is way cool !!!!!
nbturbo, I am glad that you enjoy your car. Apart from a few window troubles, Veronica has made me really happy !!!!!!!
Veronica and I will be in Valla waving the Victorian flag, we hope to see you there !
:bounce
Have you thought about a Kombi?
lol, hello byronbus! Don't worry I love kombi's to, and i thought about getting one a while back (a campervan one) and fixing it all up so it was beautiful. I just think that out of all of the vw's Beetle are my fave...well, my obsession really ;-) Have you got any other vw's?
Doug is sooooooo cute Mrs Herbie, a nice black or silver nb with 18inch mags would do me fine!
Just outta curiousity I called up RACQ to see about insurance and it wasn't that bad. So I am aiming to get a nb probably by September/October. Hopefully if I get one by the 26th I will be able to take it on the girls dub day. I just have to save up a little more money. 😀
I would love to go to all girls dub day ..... too bad I live in the wrong state !
:sandrine
byronbus said "have you thought about a kombi?" I second that. I love my bus, even if it's not the most reliable thing around.
Kombi kombi kombi.
I will own an aircooled bug one day too. I love the oldies.
Cheers, Aurel.🙂
if you going to go water cooled get a golf!!! he he, mind you make changes to your engine or get the VR6 and stock wheels look bad, apart from that one cool car!!
[Edited on 17/6/2004 by Cruzin in a Golf]
<hr>"I choose to Cruze VW Golf Mk1 Style!!!"
I'm with you Stealth, this topic does get old, but the newer members perhaps didn't see it the last four times.
I am heavily into the vintage side of things, yet my search for a NB continues.. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder here folks..
Each to their own. They share the badge, so lets keep an open mind. At least it isn't a Holden..
THE LOWEST WITH THE MOSTEST BLING BLING WINS!!
Hello BenettonVW! And are you today? I don't think this topic gets old I like to hear about everyones cars and there views on things.
It's very nice to hear someone say though that we all share the badge (well I will again soon) so we should all keep an open mind.
