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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204345
I bent the long (PS) tie rod on my baja today jumping dunes on Stockton (oops)! I have a front end from a superbug. My baja is a ball joint '68. Are they the same tie rods?

Otherwise I'm going to have to get another one, if someone has one lying around 🙁
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#204366
Do You mean the tie rods are from a super beetle...??

as you can't have a front end from a super, as they bolt to the inner guards NOT the chassis....

they have a different steering box set up ...

My Book shows the Supers having two equal length tie rods that is attached to a centre tie rod...... that is attached to the steering box...

Torsion Bar beetles have a short tie rod on the Drivers side and a Long tie rod on the Passengers side.. these are attached to the pittman arm of the steering Box, which is attached to the torsion bar tubes... with the steering damper also attached to the long tie rod end...

Lee

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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204377
FWIW I actually DO have a super front end, it's the front half of a pan cut off with a gas-axe. :P

I also have the struts and steering box and arms sitting on the ground still all connected in a big pile from said pan. However it's buried under 2 ton of assorted crap and I decided it was easier to ask if the passenger side tie rod was the same as the passenger tie rod from my '68 which is very bent.
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Make it go faster!!

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#204378
Easy way to find out is run the tape measure over them both. I am pretty sure the tie rod ends are the same taper.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204396
the tie rod ends are fine, it's the actual arm i'm worried about.

yeah, no answers forthcoming looks like I'm digging it out from under all the junk to measure it 🙁
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#204572
Hi

The arms are diffrent lenght between a super and beam front end. When I had a rally car we used to cutup old sway bars and slide them down the inside of the tubes to give them a little bit of extra strenght.

1302Steve

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204608
Thanks Steve. That's a durned good idea!
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Make it go faster!!

battybat Seriously Crusin Dubber

127 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#204744
Lee

you are a mine of useful pictures!

I had put up a post cos I didn't know beetles have steering dampers, and then I find you've posted a pic of the front end from above somewhere else

have you got a website with them all on?

cheers

terry
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BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204759
yep different tie rods the super are equal length, and have a drag link.
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#204774
I took it off tonite and bashed it flat, so it's back in action 😀 yeah yeah, it's weakened now but it'll get replaced with no urgency now at least/
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!