it still a modified bug cause it is not the way it was original, i say fine do it but dont pass it off as something its not say its an oval with a splitty grapht. but then i disagree with their whole alternate engine stance. i say so long as its based on a vw, its a vw.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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who's club is it? the founding member's or the members in total? I'd say the founding member(s), so if you don't like it, start your own club. It really is one of those things where if you don't agree you simply don't be a part of it. (same reason my VW stuff goes on eBay and not here, because I don't agree with the rules here 🙂)
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!
AQs a well known purist, I'm with him.
If a club has had these rules from the outset, where is the problem?
If people don't like it, no one is forcing them to stay.
Body modifications are a different animal. I can't see the problem with grafting part of one beetle onto another.
Fitting rice burner parts- thats different.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
Some people really need to get over themselves!
If it is a club for purists, then let it be. Isn't that a good thing for keeping stock resto's happening? Good on you guys!
BUT technically speaking, I think purism has it's place ONLY at show's (and in SPECIFIC categories). Clubs should be about people helping out people and enjoying dubs. Just my opinion!
If some people want to keep a purist club, then whatever. It's a free world, filled with all sorts of clubs and all sorts of dubs. It's a shame when people decide to get all political and negative tho'. It's a human condition that I thought belonged more to NON-DUBBER'S, but unfortunately not.
And as for the more layed back, or "hot roddin' dub-mutation" people, you'll probably all outlive the purists with their anal rules and reg's, so don't worry about it. You can come and buy their nice clean rides after they pass on, and drop in a watercooled V8! Doing a donut on their graves must give you some sort of satisfaction?
Does it really matter ?????
All this argy bargy about what is a VW and what is not and the debate between air cooled and water cooled is just too boring for words !!!!!!.... Why don't we all just join hands and celebrate our VW's ( oooh this makes me sound like a hippy !!!!!). To me being a member of the VWCV means that I can meet up with like minded people. You don't have to own and drive a VW to be a part of the spirit, it is all in the heart not in what is in the garage !!! (I think that I need to lie down after spinning all that crap !!!!!!)
either that or get back to work.... 😉
see.... air and water do mix 😉
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blutopless2 wrote:either that or get back to work.... 😉
RIGHT .... And I could say the same for you ??????
:vader
I always find that work is best left to others.😎
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Clubs should be about people helping out people and enjoying dubs.
Nailed it right on the head.
🙂Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
57kombi wrote:Interestingly the founding member has an oval with a split rear window fitted,
Cheers
Dave
Can you see the weld lines in that one?
[Edited on 21-7-2004 by Dubnut]
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tell the club to stick and start your own club without reals like that, as far as body mods.... disfiguring a oval should not be allowed... that is sin.... bolt on guards bonnets engine lids...... just dont destroy the body......
oops, you just excluded all bajas
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
and all manxs and kit cars
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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Manx's Baja's and kit cars are still permitted, provided they are VW powered.
Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
personally i dont see the difference between a car thats vw powered and a car that uses vw running gear but with a different breed engine. as far as the design rules go the are both vw based.
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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Only because in my view, a VW is a VW when it has a rear mounted flat 4 aircooled engine in it. Thats what makes them distinctive from all the other billions of cars out there. Its the heart and soul. Check out any of the advertising brochures of the era and you will see they agree. I dont like to see any bodywork being butchered up either. What happens with the late model stuff I dont care, but leave the cult cars alone. While its possible for them to have a VW engine in them, they should stay that way.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Only because in my view, a VW is a VW when it has a rear mounted flat 4 aircooled engine in it
so you're excluding Golfs Passat's Bora's, NB's, t3's, t4's, vr6's w engines and so on?
What happens with the late model stuff I dont care, but leave the cult cars alone.
you may have just upset a whole lot of golf owners.
[Edited on 22-7-2004 by vwtyp2]
Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
amazer wrote:Only because in my view, a VW is a VW when it has a rear mounted flat 4 aircooled engine in it. Thats what makes them distinctive from all the other billions of cars out there. Its the heart and soul. Check out any of the advertising brochures of the era and you will see they agree. I dont like to see any bodywork being butchered up either. What happens with the late model stuff I dont care, but leave the cult cars alone. While its possible for them to have a VW engine in them, they should stay that way.
So that makes my new beetle not a volkswagen ??????
I knew that someone would bring this up !
I dont like to see any bodywork being butchered up either.
Cut them all up if you wish. If you have the car you can do as you please. Nothing would stop me from chopping or otherwise modifying even a split beetle.
The design process ends with the user not the factory. The same way as a novel isn't finished until the reader has read it. The creative process is never ending and the more people fashion cars to suit themselves the better.
Absolutely perfect restorations are for museums.
heres a sticky one i just thought of if a bug has a 12b rotary in it it must be a vw cause its based on a vw designed engine. am i right or just listening to the voices again
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
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Golly....another great debate going on here
Modified VW's are a big part of the VW culture now.....so this guy shold get with the times
Just as some people choose to modify....other choose equally to restore, and not to have it put away in a museum .... A lot of expense goes with either of these two options so our rides are equally as precious to us all
VW's are not just rides with a rear mounted flat 4 aircooled engine ...my Type 3 Sqback has a pancake aircooled engine ....and it in the rear
Ghias are part of the scene also....and new VW's...escpecially if the driver is aware they are driving one and the meaning of being a dubber 😉
Has this new ruling just come into the club...sounds like it...was there a vote on it? ....Maybe I lost track of what happened to start the debate of all this....
If this guy changed the rules of his own accord then he's purely dictator satisfying his own desires and not those of the club members!!!
heres a sticky one i just thought of if a bug has a 12b rotary in it it must be a vw cause its based on a vw designed engine. am i right or just listening to the voices again
the engine wasn't manufactured by volkswagenwerk AG
Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
Has this new ruling just come into the club...sounds like it...was there a vote on it? ....Maybe I lost track of what happened to start the debate of all this....
this rule is in the club's constitution and is as old as the club itself.
Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
vwtyp2 wrote:
heres a sticky one i just thought of if a bug has a 12b rotary in it it must be a vw cause its based on a vw designed engine. am i right or just listening to the voices again
the engine wasn't manufactured by volkswagenwerk AG
only cause they passed on the idea because of efficency, but it was designed by volkswagenwerk AG
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” Bill Hicks
the chaos project - click me
an after market engine wasnt made by volkswagen ag either.......
I'm not excluding watercooled VW's at all. I'm not anti water in any way. If I had the money I would go out and buy myself a spanking new caravelle. Even an older T3 caravelle. I did hold a grudge against new beetles when they were released but I'm over that now. To my knowledge noone has dropped a mazda engine into a golf/beetle/polo/passat/tourag/T4..... And it wouldnt bother me too much if they did (I dont believe that they are a classic, and I dont believe they ever will be) If/when it happens they will have to leave that club too.
Until someone from that club lets all the other members know that he/she is going to move a motion to change the clubs constitution at the AGM thats what the rules are and there's nothing a lot of bleating on here is gonna do.
[Edited on 22-7-2004 by amazer]
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
You know what great thing I love about the manx club???? You don't even have to own a car to be a member.
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yeah...& the more modified from original, the better. there are some "different" people out there, like the bloke that was selling me his 59 beetle but changed his mind when he found out i was building a baja. but each to their own. does anybody want a split/oval beetle gearbox before i dump it ?
cheers,
rick
yeah...& the more modified from original, the better. there are some "different" people out there, like the bloke that was selling me his 59 beetle but changed his mind when he found out i was building a baja. but each to their own. does anybody want a split/oval beetle gearbox before i dump it ?
cheers,
rick
if you deliver, but I have 2 already.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
