I was in Auto Barn the other day, and I heard some silly Lady complaining that she had to pay 10% GST on parts for her car and how it's all Howard’s fault.
I felt like saying "SHUT THE FUCK YOU DUMB BITCH, YOU HAD TO PAY 30 % SALES TAX BEFORE THE GST CAME IN".
So she was actually saving 20%.
As I've been in the Transport Business for over 10 years now I'm well aware of the advantages of G.S.T
Some narrow minded people complain, but never take the time to learn about what there complaining about.
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[Edited on 5-9-2004 by Flying VW]
BAJA NOW FITTED WITH A FULL FLYING REBUILD
Oh yeah and what about that Lying Bastard who promised to build the Scoresby Freeway "with no Tolls" before an Election. Then he screwed as all from behind by then changing his mind once he got into Power.
Now if it ever gets built we will have to pay for it.
The Federal Government has half the Money needed ready to give to Victoria, but since Bracks Lied to us about the Tolls they wont give it to Him.
The agreement was that the Federal government would only give them the assistance if it were a "Toll Free Road", and Bracks knew that.
"KNOB HEAD"
BAJA NOW FITTED WITH A FULL FLYING REBUILD
Im votin, for Hotrod matt.
He seem's to know whats going on!
Rob...😎
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft
As long as all these conservative fools are in I'm not having anything to do with politics. These monkeys never get anything done, just *&^*&%# about who spent more on education or who punched a taxi driver a decade ago. Then again if I saw little johnny howard driving a bug I'd give him the vote straight away. Or throw up. :puke
[Edited on 6-9-2004 by boersch]
Australia's Economy - doesn't know the meaning of 'Value-added'
The new word LEVY = TAX scheeming fekers
They laugh because You are different, You laugh because They are all the same.
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www.lowlight.com.au for low lights only..
that is a very interesting point Donkey. However, after a recent assignment into education spending in the 04-05 budget i found that private schools receive the same amount as public, but not per head. Private schools throughout Oz only support one third of all students but receive the same funding as the public schools which cater for 2/3 of students.
Shouldn't somehting be done about the lazy wankers and feral parents who claim money for their 13 or 20 children, while you people, the working class heroes pay sh*tloads of income tax plus sales tax, levies, duties and indirect taxes to support freeloaders. oooh, i love bitching. down with bogans!
hotrod matt's got my vote as well 🙂
incase you havent guessed i dont vote.....although the thought of growing drugs sounds interesting how stoopid do they think we are.
hows this for an idea no one in australia votes and instead we put them in a boxing ring and let them settle it that way......sound too violent....think about it people in todays society its a case of "pre-historic genes in a postmodern world", now dont lie you were all considering the boxing idea 😉
Founding member of the C'town Rat-Pack
haha, i'll go with that idea if we put bears in the ring
Hey - how'r you people getting around not voting then? I've missed about 7 State and Federal elections (combined), and was given "THE FEAR" by someone who reckon's they nailed a friends buttocks to the wall over not voting.
You guys doing the conscientious objector thing? Or did you tell them you're JUST PLAIN BANANA'S?
BTW - Bob Brown is an absolute legend for all those wishing to turn on their brains.
easy man rock up get your name marked off and hand in a blank ballot paper 😉 how they gonna know :P
Founding member of the C'town Rat-Pack
Yeah, but that still involves the work of going there and getting subjected to the vibes! Ewwwww!
BTW - I really look forward to voting. Just gotta do it postal. That wally Howard put the election right in the middle of Byron Dubfest! Doofman!
Robo wrote:Im votin, for Hotrod matt.
He seem's to know whats going on!
Rob...😎
Ile 2nd that.:thumb
I actually considered running for a senate seat. Until I found out you need at least $50k to ensure you get the minimum 3% of the poll to get your money back!
I was gonna run on a protest ticket. Bringing democracy into a parliament which asa never experienced it.
My platform:
- Truly representative - Constant polling of the electorate and respecting the wishes of the majority even if their decision is abhorent to me.
- Instant recall. If the electorate shows that I am not voting the way the majority want me to or not introducing the bills they want to see they can instantly recall me.
- Fixed term and fixed contract for representatives. If a representative pulls out during their term the cost a by-election comes directly from their pocket.
- Call for the abolition of the party system. The party system is counter to democracy. The wishes of the electorate are all that matter not the whims of a party heeling to its corporate masters.
- Upending of the Westsinister System. The concept that some reps are there as government and some as oposition is anathema to democracy. All reps are the government! If a rep is actually representative then they support a bill which has the support of their electorate regardless of who proposed it.
For anyone to get elected with a huge margin all you have to offer is direct representative democracy!
But then why would I bother... you can never wash the stench of government from yourself. And how could a libertarian socialist (anarchist) reconcile participation in an oppressive system that needs a revolution not reform.
....true Matt......people often go into politics with good social ethics and get caught up in the system... becoming as corrupt and ineffective as the next person.... :jesus
I wish another Whitlam would come along!! Can't see one out there...🙁
Bob Hawk sold his soul so badly and is now just an old fool.........
will Australia ever get another Statesman....
will Australia ever get another Statesman....
lol.......good one Matt 😀
I haven't seen a good staesman out there for a long time.... I've become so apathetic over what we have.... No inspired brilliance, or verbal ability amongst any one of out pollies right now.... Quack a duck!!!!
I want a leader that thinks beyond the next election... Hence I am voting Green cos if they get enough support, they might form a coalition with Labor like in Germany, and then we will start seeing long term progress which wont be at the expense of the environment...
Also, I would like to see state governments abolished. Imagine how much that would save the taxpayer. We have 1/4 the population of Germnay with more politicians.... Go the regional council and one federal gov't... Also, lets get a republic... Gosh, now my cards are well and truly on the table...
having said all that, Howard HAS to go...
Steve. Classic 85 Mk2 2dr GTI 8v Optioned sunroof and 15"BBS RS alloys. Koni yellow and H&R, Balanced bottom end, flowed top end, Neuspeed 268 cam.
HotRodMatt wrote:
Howard has kept the lid on Inflation so far....
I love this time of the parliamentary farce. Political and economic naivity rules supreme.
The fiscal policies of the government of the day do bugger all to the Australian economy in the global landscape. Not to mention that the "labor" party's fiscal policy is as right wing as the moderate conservatives...
Australia's highest ever interest rates were under the Fraser conservative government. The much complained about rates during Cheating's (sorry, Keating's) treasury were a full 2% lower than the US rates at the time. Compare that to now where our rates are 2.5% higher! National debt was lower under the Whitlam gov than present even with the harsher external forces experienced in the late 60s thru to the mid 70s. Inflation slowed among Australia's scale economies at the same time as ours and ours will increase at the same rate as thiers regardless of the gov of the day and their fiscal policy.
Our economy booms and drops at te same time as the greater developed world.
It doesn't matter who you vote for or if you bother to vote for those missrepresentative puppets at all, Australia's future lays in machinations of global economics.
Like the old bastards say - "If it changed anything, it'd be illegal."
Voting in a system where MPs represent a party is like protesting for bigger cages and longer chains.
What Matt said. As for Howard's moral and ethical stance, he sent us to war under false pretenses, and he's covering up the baby overboard scam. His shrewdness and timing is impeccable. He uses his great mind to divert attention the facts, and avoid answering questions. Great politician, terrible leader.
As for Latham not being as smart as Howard, READ ONE OF HIS BOOKS. He has his own original ideas, and could have been a scholar if he chose to. I don't think he's a good politician. He hasn't learnt to lie and cover up his tracks yet, and he has a tendency to say what he thinks. That will get him nowhere.
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So far I have voted Liberal most of my life, for lack of a real alternative. We now could be staring at a real alternative right in front of us, if only he and the media would say to the public what he really thinks.
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
jenz58 wrote:....true Matt......people often go into politics with good social ethics and get caught up in the system... becoming as corrupt and ineffective as the next person.... :jesus
I wish another Whitlam would come along!! Can't see one out there...🙁
Bob Hawke sold his soul so badly and is now just an old fool.........
I think if you dig deep enough you might find another Gough in Mark Latham. He needs a bit of time. Gough after all mentored him...
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
I am sad that some people won't vote. I realise that our farcical democracy discourages people who don't necessarily believe the media hype from voting, but that's no reason not to. Lack of choices and so forth.
You see, these elections are the only time we ordinary people actually have a say. In some places, people get to decide on issues, not some w*nker 'representative' away in some w*nker hall bitching and moaning and carrying on like a two-year old. Like, instead of the bl**dy government just deciding everything (like a fascism), people would have to vote before we embarked on illegal military invasions of foreign sovereign countries at the behest of a different foreign power which dictates our foreign policy.
This input by the populace is sometimes called a referendum. They have them several times a year in Switzerland, I know, because I can vote in them. How's this for a concept: if you get enough signatures, then your issue MUST go to referendum. Even if the aforementioned w*nkers in Canberra don't want it to. In Switzerland they seem to manage to afford the referenda OK, despite what some people here would like to claim about them (referenda). And no, they don't all get voted down.
Real democracy, what a concept.
Sorry this got long, I'm just frustrated by the bulls*it system we've got here.
Voting for Greens, because I know they won't be a majority (not sure that'd be too fantastic just yet, they need to mature as a political force first).:beer
Howard has kept the lid on Inflation so far....
As I said before - government fiscal policy has precious little to do directly with inflation and interest rates. However it does has a reasonable effect on growth...
Early to Mid 90s: 3.2%
Now: 1.8%
Now this Treasurer will be the second to next Prime Monster if the current Prime Sinister is re-elected...
To be fair - the [mis]representatives themselves don't make policy. It's the public service, party think tanks (sink tanks?) and beaurocracy that does that... however a conservative government structures a conservative beaurocracy.
Cant vote liberal cos they are racist war mongering american kiss arses and Downer is just screaming out for a smack in the head. For the money the "coallition of the willing" has spent blowing up Iraq (for no apparent reason), we could have bought the place.
Cant vote labor cos they are a bunch of followers, take on turn coats like Kernot, live in the past by parading bob hawke around.
Cant vote Democrat cos they sided with the sore losing bitch and booted Natasha the Destroyer, the most normal person in politics.
Cant vote independant cos its a waste of time.
Only leaves Greens huh.
Not that it makes an ounce of difference here, nobody other than labour will get in down here in steelworks city.
Going to live in NZ where the pollies arent affraid to tell the yanks to go get f.................
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
Downer is just screaming out for a smack in the head
Hahahahaha.... and a ladder his fishnets!
Oh, I really love this! It's good to hear some intelligent political discourse.
Still, The Lib's are looking strong in the actual AVD poll.
Our Fed member is a Lib here, and she just stuck all that Interest Rates scaremongering rubbish into an article in the local paper.
I read it a day after the 7:30 report's analysis of this "Howard - repeat it ad nauseum until foolish Australia believes it - tactic" that basically put the point that this is simply an ignorant marketing tool, and that Macro (world) economic issues are the puppet masters of our interest rates and Treasurer, regardless of Party.
It was stated that interest rates are expected to stay stable for the next year, and then rise, regardless of which party is in power.
AND HERE'S THE GOOD ONE! Don't you think that if the Government had put some sort of pressure onto investment real estate, that housing prices would not have inflated as quickly and stupidly as they have? This has put people in a russian roulette situation with interest rates, leaving normal Australians in a very precarious situation. Thanks Mr Howard! And what would all of those investment dollars have done for our industry and jobs situation? This is all hypothetical now... Naturally, this has caused a boom in the building industry, but it's the real estate marketers that are getting the cream just for a load of hot air and pressure!
Oooops, I'm rabbiting now. Sorry!:puke
P.S. Please read some of Bob Brown's stuff if you haven't ever had the chance. He's got a brain if you are capable of thinking outside the square, and a conscience if such things are important to you. Two things I'd personally like to see in Australia's leaders.
I reacon Howard's done a bloody good job faced with tuff problems. The economy's in the best state it's been in in years. I think he's still good a few good years in him. Latham has been leader for what?...4; 5 months. My contention is "why fix something that's not broken"
aggri1 wrote:Even if the aforementioned w*nkers in Canberra don't want it to.
Voting for Greens, because I know they won't be a majority (not sure that'd be too fantastic just yet, they need to mature as a political force first).:beer
Steady!!!! Just remember, 90% of pollies live in other states, and only come to Canberra for parliament!!! We who live here are not all wankers, or pollies!!!
As for Greens, imagine if they teamed up with Labor. Keep em honest on environmental front, and think sustainable growth for the next 50 years. That is political maturity.
Having said all that, at least Latham says he will ratify Kyoto!!! That takes balls... and good on him...
Re-iterating, Howard must not win!!!!
Steve. Classic 85 Mk2 2dr GTI 8v Optioned sunroof and 15"BBS RS alloys. Koni yellow and H&R, Balanced bottom end, flowed top end, Neuspeed 268 cam.
Read in the courier mail today only Dual income families with little kiddies will be better off under Marky Marks new Tax policy.
Well screw the single income family again!!
Up yours Labour (for the first time ever!!)
Hey lets start a thread on Religion next!
Keeping it real !
